First Cycle. Winstrol. Please help

**mikeyp123** · 07-29-2009, 11:37 AM

Hi there, I'm 24 years old and I want to give Winstrol a try. I was thinking of just going on it for one month to see how my body reacts to it. From what I read 50mg a day is a good way to go, for the pill version. My one question is how do I take it through out the day also should I have a heavier dose the first day?? And would I have to go on any PCT after this short time or do I just ease my self of the Winstrol??
If anyone can help me out that would be great!!

***T-MOS*** · 07-29-2009, 11:41 AM

Welcome

what are the rest of your stats please

height
weight
bodyfat %
diet
yrs training
GOALS for this

YES you would need PCT as winny WILL shut down your natural production of Testosterone , you know, that hormone that makes men MEN !!

so taking winny by itself is NOT RECOMMENDED. as you will suffer sides from having NO TEST running in your body

**mikeyp123** · 07-29-2009, 01:36 PM

I'm 24 years old 5'6" and about 20% body fat. I been working out off and on for 5-6 years, and I'm just happy with my results. I'm not looking to get bulked up I just want be lean and cut up, I'm not looking to go to crazy with steroids but if you or anyone would have a suggestion on what to go on that would be great.

**Matt** · 07-29-2009, 01:50 PM

Diet and cardio to reduce your bf before thinking about steroids lol, unless you like gyno and high blood pressure...

**spooledup** · 07-29-2009, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

Welcome

so taking winny by itself is NOT RECOMMENDED. as you will suffer sides from having NO TEST running in your body

This is incorrect. Winstrol is lightly suppressive on HPTA. While you may certainly suffer sexual side affects, and your natural test levels will probably drop off, your body will still produce some testosterone .

**feeldapump89** · 07-29-2009, 02:38 PM

Someone correcting TMOS!? I never thought id see the day

***T-MOS*** · 07-29-2009, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

This is incorrect. Winstrol is lightly suppressive on HPTA. While you may certainly suffer sexual side affects, and your natural test levels will probably drop off, your body will still produce some testosterone.

yea OK...... still NOT RECOMMENDED !!! If I want LOW TEST, i will make sure I come ask YOU for advice....THANKS

so, you are saying that naturally produces....say 70mgs of test per week, and you want to take a "lightly" suppressive compound (which I don't believe), that will take away lets say 90% of your natural production....????

YEA.....OK I only want 7-10 mgs of test flowing in my body???? NOT !!!!!!

no thanks !!!! I would NEVER suggest to someone to RISK the sides of NOT having ENOUGH test flowing due to lack of taking exogenous test because someone said you didn't need it

SORRY, BAD ADVICE !!!

**Mooseman33** · 07-29-2009, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

This is incorrect. Winstrol is lightly suppressive on HPTA. While you may certainly suffer sexual side affects, and your natural test levels will probably drop off, your body will still produce some testosterone.

your advice will end up hurting someone who does not know any better.
you and I had it out last week about poor your poor advice. this board is here to help people do things correct, not get lucky.

**Papa Smurf** · 07-29-2009, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by mooseman33

your advice will end up hurting someone who does not know any better.
you and I had it out last week about poor your poor advice. this board is here to help people do things correct, not get lucky.

Easy Mooseman ........... dont go Bullwinkle on us bro!

Its all be said OP. Listen to a vet who has more cycle time on here than most, not to mention highly respected or dont!

**spooledup** · 07-29-2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by mooseman33

your advice will end up hurting someone who does not know any better.
you and I had it out last week about poor your poor advice. this board is here to help people do things correct, not get lucky.

We had it out? LOL, well ok buddy, if you say so.

What advice did I give him that was poor? Point it out. I told him what the risks of a no test cycle were, explained why people recommend test in a cycle, and answered his questions directly. I never told him he must or must not use test. I presented the facts and let him make his own decision. Maybe you need a reading comprehension class.

If you have never done a no test cycle YOU shouldn't be commenting. My first cycle was EQ/winstrol and I didn't just acheive my goals, I EXCEEDED them. I only wanted 10lbs of lean mass and I got 17lbs. Not only that, I felt on top of the world while I was on.

Right after the cycle's PCT, I had bloodwork done. I was fine. My bad cholesterol was a little high but the Dr said it's fine not to worry. I recovered quickly and completely.

Let's put it this way, isn't BIG on TRT? I'm older than him, have been bodybuilding longer, and have done numerous cycles. I'm not on TRT, my body still produces normal levels of testosterone after a proper PCT. Why should people listen to him and not me? Why do you nutswing off someone who shut themself down?

You guys really need to get off this mandatory test BS. You need to present the facts, make recommendations, and let people make their own decision. Telling people they're completely shut down and there is NO test in their system is a scare tactic and inaccurate.

I just can't believe how bad the test circle jerk has gotten here in the last few years. One person says, "OMG no test lolz", and everyone starts circle jerking. It's almost comical.

**Mooseman33** · 07-29-2009, 03:46 PM

i just pm u man...we can talk in private as there is no need to destroy someones thread with piss poor advice cause u have gotten lucky over the years...