What type of gains can be expected for a 1st timer?

[vaders4]

Just wondering what I can expect if I do decide to run test (c or e) for the first time.

If course, proper PCT will follow - and no - I'm not doing this now. I'm not ready.

Aside from that - what are realistic goals? 10lbs? 15? more?

I know my workout and diet have a huge part to do with it - so lets assume the workout and diet are spot on.

Thanks in advance!

[Papa Smurf]

depends on the person.

15 to 20 lbs are good goals. diet is the key!

[Matt]

^^^ agreed lol

[vaders4]

depends on the person.

15 to 20 lbs are good goals. diet is the key!

I figured that. One question, when you say 15-20lbs, are you talking solid muscle or overall weight?

[Matt]

I figured that. One question, when you say 15-20lbs, are you talking solid muscle or overall weight?

Yes if you have a good clean diet...

[Bigmax]

overall weight bro...

[Darksyde]

one point twenty one jiggowatts

[Papa Smurf]

Overall quailty mass. You get 5 or 6 lbs of good muscle off that cycle you will be doing great.

[vaders4]

Understood! Thanks for the quick replies.

[tinytom777]

one point twenty one jiggowatts

lol fvck yeah!!

[ninesecz]

If you retain a lot of water, you could gain upwards of 30+#! Not all lean muscle of course