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    What type of gains can be expected for a 1st timer?

    Just wondering what I can expect if I do decide to run test (c or e) for the first time.

    If course, proper PCT will follow - and no - I'm not doing this now. I'm not ready.

    Aside from that - what are realistic goals? 10lbs? 15? more?

    I know my workout and diet have a huge part to do with it - so lets assume the workout and diet are spot on.

    Thanks in advance!

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    depends on the person.

    15 to 20 lbs are good goals. diet is the key!

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    ^^^ agreed lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Smurf View Post
    depends on the person.

    15 to 20 lbs are good goals. diet is the key!
    I figured that. One question, when you say 15-20lbs, are you talking solid muscle or overall weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaders4 View Post
    I figured that. One question, when you say 15-20lbs, are you talking solid muscle or overall weight?
    Yes if you have a good clean diet...

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    overall weight bro...

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    one point twenty one jiggowatts

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    Overall quailty mass. You get 5 or 6 lbs of good muscle off that cycle you will be doing great.

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    Understood! Thanks for the quick replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksyde View Post
    one point twenty one jiggowatts

    lol fvck yeah!!

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    If you retain a lot of water, you could gain upwards of 30+#! Not all lean muscle of course

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