my cycle

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:19 PM

hey guy's, i'm using gh for more than a month now, and i wanna add some test suspension and Primobolan to my cycle, i will run them for 5 weeks, in low dosage, i just wanna know what you think about my cycle, thanks.

i'm running 4 ius a day of pharma grade gh

**G4R** · 07-29-2009, 11:21 PM

In case we missed it from an earlier thread....

Stats-
Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF%
Cycle Exp?
PCT Knowlege
Training Exp

**marcus300** · 07-29-2009, 11:23 PM

cycle history?
stats?
whats the exact cycle look like?
How long have you been training for?
What are your goals?

***T-MOS*** · 07-29-2009, 11:26 PM

why test suspension?? it has no ester and needs to be shot two or three times EVERYDAY to keep your blood levels more stable.

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:29 PM

age: 24
height: 6'0
weight: 190
bf: 15%
cycle exp: orals
pct knowlege : very well
training exp: 1 and a half year going 6 times a week and cardio 4 times a week

**G4R** · 07-29-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

age: 24
height: 6'0
weight: 190
bf: 15%
cycle exp: orals
pct knowlege : very well
training exp: 1 and a half year going 6 times a week and cardio 4 times a week

What orals? How many cycles? What was your PCT?

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

What orals? How many cycles? What was your PCT?

i've done just efanol for two month, didn't do any pct

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

why test suspension?? it has no ester and needs to be shot two or three times EVERYDAY to keep your blood levels more stable.

well i wanted to do test e and some dbol , but my trainer suggested that i use test suspension because of less time using it and less water retention.

**G4R** · 07-29-2009, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

i've done just efanol for two month, didn't do any pct

The ephedrine stack?

***T-MOS*** · 07-29-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

well i wanted to do test e and some dbol, but my trainer suggested that i use test suspension because of less time using it and less water retention.

smack your trainer upside his head

suspension HURTS for one , and three shots a day is gonna suck for you

you are better using Test E and doing two shots a week using an AI if you are worried about water retention

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

The ephedrine stack?

efanol memphis= Chlorpheniramine + Diprophylline + Ephedrine + Phenobarbital

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

smack your trainer upside his head

suspension HURTS for one , and three shots a day is gonna suck for you

you are better using Test E and doing two shots a week using an AI if you are worried about water retention

well thats what i thought, and i mean i have to shoot it everyday, but he said no, u can shoot it twice a week then go to three times a week then to four times a week then go back to two times a week and etc,

**G4R** · 07-29-2009, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

well thats what i thought, and i mean i have to shoot it everyday, but he said no, u can shoot it twice a week then go to three times a week then to four times a week then go back to two times a week and etc,

What? He told you that? and he said that about Susp?

***T-MOS*** · 07-29-2009, 11:47 PM

the key to safe cycling is keeping your blood levels as stable as possible.

fluctuating blood levels cause more side effects.

so, suspension having NO ester, gets your blood plasma levels up quick and is OUT of your system in just a few hours, so that will cause a roller coaster effect with your blood levels peaking , then dropping

it CAN be done, and you will live, BUT you will probably have bad sides from it

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

What? He told you that? and he said that about Susp?

yeah i swear he did, and everytime i tell him r u sure ?? cause i never heard about this, and he's like yeah of course i'm sure, i'm a trainer

**rocafella** · 07-29-2009, 11:50 PM

he suggested primobolan with it, what do u guys think ?

**rocafella** · 07-30-2009, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

the key to safe cycling is keeping your blood levels as stable as possible.

fluctuating blood levels cause more side effects.

so, suspension having NO ester, gets your blood plasma levels up quick and is OUT of your system in just a few hours, so that will cause a roller coaster effect with your blood levels peaking , then dropping

it CAN be done, and you will live, BUT you will probably have bad sides from it

that seems painful, what do u think i should use instead ?? and water retention is a big problem for me.

thanks

**marcus300** · 07-30-2009, 01:06 AM

Just do a basic Test only cycle 500mgs per week for 12 weeks, take medication to stop the bloat and have a solid PCT,

**HIITB$** · 07-30-2009, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by rocafella

he suggested primobolan with it, what do u guys think ?

The whole thing sounds UNEDUCATED to say the least!! Hell im no expert but this just sounds rediculous from what i know and i dont pretend to be trainer material.

**HIITB$** · 07-30-2009, 01:12 AM

Let me try to be more helpful sorry..

If you're ok with pinning and only want to do it twice a week then TEST E or C is for you! NOT suspension. Your first cycle you should stick to just test then add something later on you latter cycles if you so choose. The ephedrine stack you took is not AAS so you've never cycles before.

Its like this
Test Prop - you pin ED or EOD
Test E and C- 2x week
Test Susp - 2xED at least

A lot of mixes out there and rule of thumb you go according to smallest ester but i can't be 100% on that as ive never done Sust or anything.

Read up about PCT and do NOT start anything until you have proper PCT and an AI on standby in case of problems.

**rocafella** · 07-30-2009, 01:23 AM

thanks guys for the reply, im just going to use test e

**rocafella** · 07-31-2009, 02:17 PM

hey guys, just a question...can i start with test suspension, then go back to test e, cause i got them already and i don't wanna throw them away, thanks

**seriousmass** · 07-31-2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

hey guys, just a question...can i start with test suspension, then go back to test e, cause i got them already and i don't wanna throw them away, thanks

you could use your test suspension as a kickstart

(IE)

Test-E (weeks 1 - 12) @ 500mg each week
Test-Suspension (weeks 1 - 14) @ ~70mg each day (70 x 7 = ~500mg)

**rocafella** · 07-31-2009, 03:33 PM

hey seriousmass, thanks for the reply, would it be a waste to shoot eod cause what i was thinking is that i shoot one day test suspension and the other day Primobolan cause i have them already, then finish up and go with test e for 12 weeks @ 500mg each week, i just got 15 ampoules of each, i thought i would try them out first, just want to know if it would be a waste of time, thanks

**Twist** · 07-31-2009, 03:40 PM

you should be shooting test e and suspension at the same time. when you run out of suspension you should just continue with the test e. suspension MUST be shot at least 2x a day. I would not change that.

**seriousmass** · 07-31-2009, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

you should be shooting test e and suspension at the same time. when you run out of suspension you should just continue with the test e. suspension MUST be shot at least 2x a day. I would not change that.

^^ what he said.

**Mooseman33** · 07-31-2009, 03:48 PM

this guy has never taken any injection before and u guys are telling him to kickstart his cycle with suspension?

thats rough fellas.....

**seriousmass** · 07-31-2009, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by mooseman33

this guy has never taken any injection before and u guys are telling him to kickstart his cycle with suspension?

thats rough fellas.....

hey man he wants to do it... so let him.

it's not going to hurt anymore then injecting prop, and may people cycle prop for their first time.

sure it's going to hurt & be a hassle to inject 14 times a week... but it is not necessarily a bad idea, and will be a nice kickstart.

**Mooseman33** · 07-31-2009, 03:58 PM

i have never shot suspension, however have done a ton of prop, and i can tell u that i would not want to take prop shots 2-3 ED....
i think it is a bad idea as he has never injected before, not even one time....to start with suspension is real rough...

just my opinion bro...

**rocafella** · 07-31-2009, 03:59 PM

thanks guys for replying, the reason for all this mess is because i heard an advice from a stupid trainer who told me to shoot test suspension and primobolan , both three times a week, 25 mg of test suspension and 100mg of pirmobolan, and take it for 5 weeks so i got 15 ampoules of each, then i did a little reading and saw that his a stupid ****, and i should better be running test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks and some dainabol for 4 weeks to kickstart, so now i have test suspension and test e and primobolan and dianabol , should i just throw them away or should i use them as a kick start and forget about dainabol, sorry guys for all the questions, please bear with me.

**Mooseman33** · 07-31-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

thanks guys for replying, the reason for all this mess is because i heard an advice for a stupid trainer who told me to shoot test suspension and primobolan, both three times a week, 25 mg of test suspension and 100mg of pirmobolan, and take it for 5 weeks so i got 15 ampoules of each, then i did a little reading and saw that his a stupid ****, and i should better be running test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks and some dainabol for 4 weeks to kickstart, so know i have test suspension and test e and primobolan and dianabol, should i just throw them away or should i use them as a kick start and forget about dainabol, sorry guys for all the questions, please bear with me.

dont throw them away bro...if thats what u have, i would hit the d-ball and test e....
put a strong PCT together and rock and roll....make sure ur diet is on point and enjoy...

**rocafella** · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by mooseman33

dont throw them away bro...if thats what u have, i would hit the d-ball and test e....
put a strong PCT together and rock and roll....make sure ur diet is on point and enjoy...

thanks for replying bro, well i have a great diet, thanks to the guys on this forum and for PCT i was thinking of :

30 days 1mg arimidex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

what do u think is the best time to start PCT ??

**Twist** · 07-31-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

thanks guys for replying, the reason for all this mess is because i heard an advice from a stupid trainer who told me to shoot test suspension and primobolan, both three times a week, 25 mg of test suspension and 100mg of pirmobolan, and take it for 5 weeks so i got 15 ampoules of each, then i did a little reading and saw that his a stupid ****, and i should better be running test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks and some dainabol for 4 weeks to kickstart, so now i have test suspension and test e and primobolan and dianabol, should i just throw them away or should i use them as a kick start and forget about dainabol, sorry guys for all the questions, please bear with me.

THROW AWAY?!?
never... send it to me

I would say you should either use the suspension as a kickstart to the test e or just run test e. i would not use dbol because I think you should see how your body responds to the test first.

**rocafella** · 07-31-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

THROW AWAY?!?
never... send it to me

I would say you should either use the suspension as a kickstart to the test e or just run test e. i would not use dbol because I think you should see how your body responds to the test first.

yeah but shooting my ass 192836937 times a week is a mother****er lol, water will be dripping from my ass like a tom and jerry cartoon shit

**seriousmass** · 07-31-2009, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by rocafella

yeah but shooting my ass 192836937 times a week is a mother****er lol, water will be dripping from my ass like a tom and jerry cartoon shit

rotate the injection sites. it's going to be a pain to inject the suspension... but it'll be a great kickstart. You'll start getting strength gains immediately. go to this website to review your spot-injection techniques...

w w w . s p o t i n j e c t i o n . c o m

**rocafella** · 07-31-2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by seriousmass

rotate the injection sites. it's going to be a pain to inject the suspension... but it'll be a great kickstart. You'll start getting strength gains immediately. go to this website to review your spot-injection techniques...

w w w . s p o t i n j e c t i o n . c o m

hey bro, it's not my first time injecting, i inject neurobion 3 times a week, just have a question can i mix it with the test e or test suspension, and can i mix test e and test suspension ??