Need some advice

[jccnewbie]

This is my first time really getting into steroids and I have spent several months researching from webpages and other peoples posts to find the right cycle for me.

stats
6'2"
265lbs.
29

Just to get started an see how I my body reacts I started on 50MG of winnie (oral). I have been on that for the past three weeks and have noticed a big difference in strength and gains. I have an incredible amount of pump after I work out but I assume that this is due to the increace in red blood cells.

My "supplier" has recommended that I go to a 6 week cycle of Deca @ 500MG a week (PCT of Clomid 50mg/day 3 weeks) then back to winnie to cut for 6 weeks overlaping the two the last week.

My biggest concern is that my gains will be obvious, or have other side affects that blow my cover (wife).

I know how many of you probably hate to hear beginner questions like this but I have really put in a lot of effort to research the right cycle for me, but I just won't feel ready till I ask several people with experience.

[diesel405]

Not a very good idea....

[inky-e]

This is my first time really getting into steroids and I have spent several months researching from webpages and other peoples posts to find the right cycle for me.

stats
6'2"
265lbs.
29

Just to get started an see how I my body reacts I started on 50MG of winnie (oral). I have been on that for the past three weeks and have noticed a big difference in strength and gains. I have an incredible amount of pump after I work out but I assume that this is due to the increace in red blood cells.

[B]My "supplier" has recommended that I go to a 6 week cycle of Deca @ [/B]500MG a week (PCT of Clomid 50mg/day 3 weeks) then back to winnie to cut for 6 weeks overlaping the two the last week.

My biggest concern is that my gains will be obvious, or have other side affects that blow my cover (wife).

I know how many of you probably hate to hear beginner questions like this but I have really put in a lot of effort to research the right cycle for me, but I just won't feel ready till I ask several people with experience.

Not a good idea...and you're wife will not like that special side we like to call....deca dick....winnie oral only is not too smart either....why don't you just do a test cycle for 12 weeks....you know what??? Just read some more....

[Hazard]

What bodyfat % are you?
How many years training
whats your diet like?

Deca and winny only.... not a good idea. As mentioned above.... deca d*ck is sure to kick in at 500mg's/wk.

Overall.... honestly..... it's a poor cycle. You need to do some more research on this forum. Learn about PCT and a test only cycle to start. While your at it..... post your diet up in the diet section and let the guys there maximize your gains.

~Haz~

[jccnewbie]

Not a good idea...and you're wife will not like that special side we like to call....deca dick....winnie oral only is not too smart either....why don't you just do a test cycle for 12 weeks....you know what??? Just read some more....

OK, I just have to ask, what is Deca dick?

[jccnewbie]

What bodyfat % are you?
How many years training
whats your diet like?

Deca and winny only.... not a good idea. As mentioned above.... deca d*ck is sure to kick in at 500mg's/wk.

Overall.... honestly..... it's a poor cycle. You need to do some more research on this forum. Learn about PCT and a test only cycle to start. While your at it..... post your diet up in the diet section and let the guys there maximize your gains.

~Haz~

My diet is mostly protien (salmon,tuna,beef,chicken). I eat about 5-6 small meals a day with the majority of my carbs coming from fruit in the morning and some whole wheat bread. Not very many fats.

[diesel405]

Deca dick= soft dick

[jccnewbie]

What would be the right test cycle to start out with?

[diesel405]

test cyp, test e, 400 mgs per week

[diesel405]

edit: test cyp or test e 400 mgs per week

[jccnewbie]

Any PCT/sides? What is teh difference ine the test cyp and e?

[diesel405]

Basically the same, just gave ya some choices. Thats a very mild cycle. min. sides.

[jccnewbie]

Would I need a anti-e for post cycle?

[diesel405]

Everyone is different. I never use it, but i have it on hand just incase.

[diesel405]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916 Check this out for your pct

[jccnewbie]

Thanks for your input Diesel. I'm glad I didn't just listen to the guy selling me the stuff. Should I wait a little while after my winnie cycle before I jump into test?

[diesel405]

I wouldn't, I would start test now and run it for 12 weeks. test takes a few weeks to kick in thats why ya have to run it longer. See what some of the vets say.

[hankdiesel]

This is my first time really getting into steroids and I have spent several months researching from webpages and other peoples posts to find the right cycle for me.

stats
6'2"
265lbs.
29

Just to get started an see how I my body reacts I started on 50MG of winnie (oral). I have been on that for the past three weeks and have noticed a big difference in strength and gains. I have an incredible amount of pump after I work out but I assume that this is due to the increace in red blood cells.

My "supplier" has recommended that I go to a 6 week cycle of Deca @ 500MG a week (PCT of Clomid 50mg/day 3 weeks) then back to winnie to cut for 6 weeks overlaping the two the last week.

My biggest concern is that my gains will be obvious, or have other side affects that blow my cover (wife).

I know how many of you probably hate to hear beginner questions like this but I have really put in a lot of effort to research the right cycle for me, but I just won't feel ready till I ask several people with experience.

How does someone spend "several months researching" and think that any of this is a good idea?

[jccnewbie]

How does someone spend "several months researching" and think that any of this is a good idea?

I was asking because it was recommended to me, not from my own research. I was trying to get the opinion of people with actual experience which I have none of.

[marcus300]

I was asking because it was recommended to me, not from my own research. I was trying to get the opinion of people with actual experience which I have none of.

If you have spent 7 months research from the internet forums you will know what your doing is a bad idea, can see why you would do all research when your just going to do what your dealer says,

The research you have done, follow the first time cycle advice and you will be fine.

[diesel405]

Well you came to the right place for info. This board is full of it. Just do yourself one favor, and never listen to the guys at the gym..... i have made some stupid mistakes doing that.

[jccnewbie]

Well you came to the right place for info. This board is full of it. Just do yourself one favor, and never listen to the guys at the gym..... i have made some stupid mistakes doing that.

I'm learning that pretty quickly. Everone seems to have a "better" idea but the forums always seem to stay more consistant. It will still always come down to the fact that everybody reacts different to everything. I still can't believe the gains that I have from running just winnie.

[jccnewbie]

If you have spent 7 months research from the internet forums you will know what your doing is a bad idea, can see why you would do all research when your just going to do what your dealer says,

The research you have done, follow the first time cycle advice and you will be fine.

Your right Marcus, but when your new at something that calls for so much knowledge you tend to listen to a little bit of everyones advice until you get your feet wet yourself. I will certainly follow a time cycle reguarless of what the other guys say.

[diesel405]

I know a guy who swears he is only on winnie now, and he looks great. I personally took it for 2 weeks and my joints hurt so bad i had to stop. Some guys get very bad nosebleeds. your right everyone is different.

[marcus300]

Your right Marcus, but when your new at something that calls for so much knowledge you tend to listen to a little bit of everyones advice until you get your feet wet yourself. I will certainly follow a time cycle reguarless of what the other guys say.

Sounds like your heading in the right direction, best of luck

[jccnewbie]

I know a guy who swears he is only on winnie now, and he looks great. I personally took it for 2 weeks and my joints hurt so bad i had to stop. Some guys get very bad nosebleeds. your right everyone is different.

I was waiting for the joint pain but nothing has happened. I may run just winnie again (after I try the test only cycle) but I would certainly switch to injectable form.

[diesel405]

lol, research that first. I hear winnie injectable is a bitch!

[jccnewbie]

Yea I have read that too. But after taking the oral I want to give my liver a break. I take a ton of Milk thistle to protect it but you just can't be to careful with such a sensitive organ.