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    Adreja is offline Associate Member
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    Ideas for 1st cutting cycle

    So far i've done 4 cycles.

    1. Only Deca (yes i know bad boy no test)
    2. Test + Deca
    3. Test + Deca + Dbols + Winny
    4. Test + Tri tren + Dbols

    Stats have gone from 84kgs to 100kgs all mostly good muscle gains. However the stomach is still a bit on the fat side (around 15%). At the moment i'm working on getting the body fat down a little bit more but need to start looking into ordering. From previous cycles i've found that Deca makes me hungry big time and i gain weight easily but quiet a bit of water retention. Tren on the other hand completely supresses my appetite and after the winny i felt my muscles harden up a bit and dbols dont do much.

    So with stats at the moment at 188cm, 100kgs, 15% Bf and wanting to get leaner and more muscle definition what suggestions do you guys have.
    (I know that diet is the main factor and this time i will be seeing a nutritionist)

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    Its all in the diet really give us some more info, age, height etc.

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    for cutting consider prop, masta, primo, winny, trens. ECA on the other hand for morning work-outs. you cannot go wrong.

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    In my experience you dont need to run alot of compounds to cut, a simple low dose to shift the catabolic into anabolic while the process is running, low dose test is fine and just add compounds to the cycle if needed as the bf reduces. Diet,cardio and hardwork are the backbone of any cut cycle so if thats in order and you have something in place to keep you anabolic you will be fine IMHO.

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    Redz the age height bf etc is all in there.
    SpanishStallion i agree that prop, masta, primo, winny, trens are the way go, but was wondering what does anyone have to suggest from personal experience. I was thinking to make a cycle that looks something like this.

    1-12 Test E 500mgs/w
    1-4 Test Prop 150mgs mon. wed. fri
    1-12 Tren A 75mgs mon. wed. fri
    1-6 Winny Oral 50mgs/d
    6-12 Masteron 100mgs mon. wed. fri
    1-12 Arimidex .5mgs/d

    PCT

    13-17 Nolvadex 20mgs/d
    13-17 Hcg 500iu mon. wed. fri
    13-17 Arimidex .25mgs/d
    13/17 Vitamin E 1000iu/d

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    Redz the age height bf etc is all in there.
    SpanishStallion i agree that prop, masta, primo, winny, trens are the way go, but was wondering what does anyone have to suggest from personal experience. I was thinking to make a cycle that looks something like this.

    1-12 Test E 500mgs/w
    1-4 Test Prop 150mgs mon. wed. fri
    1-12 Tren A 75mgs mon. wed. fri
    1-6 Winny Oral 50mgs/d
    6-12 Masteron 100mgs mon. wed. fri
    1-12 Arimidex .5mgs/d

    PCT

    13-17 Nolvadex 20mgs/d
    13-17 Hcg 500iu mon. wed. fri
    13-17 Arimidex .25mgs/d
    13/17 Vitamin E 1000iu/d

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