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    Im done with quad injections. Are Quads a problematic area to pin?

    Second time I had a shot go bad in my left quad.

    Here is the first- 2 years ago......

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...35#post3453335

    Just went through it again yesterday.

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    Wednesday night shower
    Thursday am shot
    Wash hands
    Get out 4 sealed alcohol pads, vial, needle/syringe combo, bandaids, etc.
    1 pad for the vial
    1 pad for the IM area
    1 pad for the IM area again, then my hands
    Draw from vial, shoot leg......... swab area again with alcohol, then put bandaid cause it was bleeding...

    I hit a vein for sure. Still bruised.

    I had a nerve or muscle jump while shooting.....So i knew it was going to be painful day or two after.

    Workout legs thursday night, by that time its hurting and starting to get hot.

    Went to bed, leg hurt but nothing too bad...

    Next day- Started itching late in the day, pain increasing throughout the day.

    I knew what was going on.........Came home looked at......

    Sure as shit, it was hot, red, swollen, pain and itching.

    Said F-it........Went to urgent care.

    I had a male doc that was cool about it......

    He asked me what i wanted to do.( I mentioned I had a problem in the past with this leg)

    He gave me a shot of Rythicin(sp) and some orals- keflex. Same protocol as last time.

    This morning redness is gone, bruise is still there and some slight swelling.

    Itchiness is about coming and going, pain is about gone.........


    Okay, my question is.............Why my quads? Same quad as last time.

    Im 8 weeks in and have shot twice from this particular vial with no incident.

    What gives, are quads a problematic area to shoot?

    Im sticking to glutes and delts.......

    F- the quads for now.

    FWIW, the nurse used a 23X1" needle for the glute shot..........not 1.5
    Last edited by Kristofer68ss; 08-01-2009 at 05:36 PM.

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    So you continued to inject after your muscle contracted or spasm? I withdraw as soon as that happens. So maybe that's some of the problem. Your body was rejecting the injection from the beginning. Just stay away from quads from now on. Very interesting that it happens everytime.
    And no....quads are usually money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    So you continued to inject after your muscle contracted or spasm? I withdraw as soon as that happens. So maybe that's some of the problem. Your body was rejecting the injection from the beginning. Just stay away from quads from now on. Very interesting that it happens everytime.
    And no....quads are usually money.
    Its not everytime with quads. I have shot many times in the quads. My only problems have been in the quads.

    The muscle or nerve twitched about a half a CC in.

    Different spots on the same quad. The first time was lower outer, this one was higher up and a tad more inner.

    Some guys say that is normal if you hit a nerve or vein........Yet in 12 hours after meds injection, redness and pain is GONE.

    Yeah, Im done with quads for AWHILE, that sucks though. Less rotation.

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    Wow, I shoot exclusively into my quads & nowhere else. I've never had a problem and love the muscle for injections...I've had a few bleeders and spasms but kept going with no problems.

    My best injection area is about 1-2 o'clock from the top just as it turns around to the side (if your sitting down looking at the top of your leg, being 12 o'clock), about a little more than 1/2 way up the leg...

    Methinks I've been lucky all these years! But I hate ass shots, did it once & it worries me hitting a major nerve twisting around backwards to pin - yuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple Stack View Post
    Wow, I shoot exclusively into my quads & nowhere else. I've never had a problem and love the muscle for injections...I've had a few bleeders and spasms but kept going with no problems.

    My best injection area is about 1-2 o'clock from the top just as it turns around to the side (if your sitting down looking at the top of your leg, being 12 o'clock), about a little more than 1/2 way up the leg...

    Methinks I've been lucky all these years! But I hate ass shots, did it once & it worries me hitting a major nerve twisting around backwards to pin - yuk
    your hitting the teardrop?

    My fav is the lower outer, but i thats where my 2007 went bad. So many damn veins in the quad......

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    No, if by teardrop you mean just above the kneecap. I hit the upper/middle outer, at about 45 degree angle. Trial & error, and lots of luck it seems, to find my golden spot.

    Sorry I guess my explanation above in my 1st post was confusing!


    Also - I don't go too far to the side. That's where I've had pain & bleeders. And I use a 1.5" needle, BUT I cut the cap back to a little over a inch & put it back on - to block the needle from passing 1"
    Last edited by Triple Stack; 08-01-2009 at 08:45 PM. Reason: added to my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple Stack View Post
    No, if by teardrop you mean just above the kneecap. I hit the upper/middle outer, at about 45 degree angle. Trial & error, and lots of luck it seems, to find my golden spot.

    Sorry I guess my explanation above in my 1st post was confusing!
    its all good.

    Thats where i like to hit also.

    s p o t i n j e c t i o n s

    dot com

    thigh series #3 is the closest to where i shot thursday.
    Last edited by Kristofer68ss; 08-01-2009 at 08:46 PM.

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    1 yr now only doing quads, never had a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    1 yr now only doing quads, never had a problem.
    exact location?

    lucky bastage. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68ss View Post
    exact location?

    lucky bastage. lol
    Everywhere, just not where I did the week before and switch legs every time. I go all along the top about the length from my thumb to little finger long and around the sides some. I hit a nerve 1x but it wasnt a problem.

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    I believe that people who CANNOT inject their QUADS have no reason to be using AAS. If you do the injection in the correct spot, with the correct gauge needle, at the correct angle, and the correct needle length/depth ... then YOU ARE FINE !!

    I have serious shot my QUADS more than ANY OTHER Spot on my body.. yah I have hit nerves.... TOUGHEN UP !! For chrissakes we are all men here right?? God... lol...

    Nah Im playing, I hear ya.. hitting in the wrong spot on ya quad will definitely without a doubt ruin your day ... if not ruin your next 3 depending if u injected that oil directly on the NERVE.. Aint no joke then !!

    Dude dont worry plenty of other places to stick ur needle.. I just find the quads and pecs the easiest because they are bang, right smack in front of you.. ya know??

    GOOD LUCK!!

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    I've been using quads only for the past two years and going strong. I have no plan on switching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    I believe that people who CANNOT inject their QUADS have no reason to be using AAS. If you do the injection in the correct spot, with the correct gauge needle, at the correct angle, and the correct needle length/depth ... then YOU ARE FINE !!

    I have serious shot my QUADS more than ANY OTHER Spot on my body.. yah I have hit nerves.... TOUGHEN UP !! For chrissakes we are all men here right?? God... lol...

    Nah Im playing, I hear ya.. hitting in the wrong spot on ya quad will definitely without a doubt ruin your day ... if not ruin your next 3 depending if u injected that oil directly on the NERVE.. Aint no joke then !!

    Dude dont worry plenty of other places to stick ur needle.. I just find the quads and pecs the easiest because they are bang, right smack in front of you.. ya know??

    GOOD LUCK!!
    1) Are you being sarcastic here, because I'm not too sure(hope you are LOL).

    2) Pecs eh?! Shit man, that's hardcore. I dunno if I'll ever consider shooting pecs lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    I believe that people who CANNOT inject their QUADS have no reason to be using AAS. If you do the injection in the correct spot, with the correct gauge needle, at the correct angle, and the correct needle length/depth ... then YOU ARE FINE !!

    I have serious shot my QUADS more than ANY OTHER Spot on my body.. yah I have hit nerves.... TOUGHEN UP !! For chrissakes we are all men here right?? God... lol...

    Nah Im playing, I hear ya.. hitting in the wrong spot on ya quad will definitely without a doubt ruin your day ... if not ruin your next 3 depending if u injected that oil directly on the NERVE.. Aint no joke then !!

    Dude dont worry plenty of other places to stick ur needle.. I just find the quads and pecs the easiest because they are bang, right smack in front of you.. ya know??

    GOOD LUCK!!

    i will NEVER shoot Pecs again.....i dont even want to remember the last time lol

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    I had a major problem with quads. The first two times I shoot there I couldn't walk for two days. Finally in like my sixth cycle I got the correct size pin and looked on s p o t i n j e c t i o n .com Now it's easy. Once I got an infection in my left ticep before and the doctor told me that it would now be more likely that I would get another infection in that same spot. Maybe that is what the case was with your left quad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIITB$ View Post
    i will NEVER shoot Pecs again.....i dont even want to remember the last time lol
    Why? What happened? I have considered doing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    Why? What happened? I have considered doing them.
    Well you could try..everyone is different but for me...

    It felt fine at first no pain, then next day upon waking holy motha of god lol I had a knot so bad, i mean BAD that i actually questioned if it had pulled something or tore something in my Pec. Swollen, warm and knotted. Couldnt bench for over a week and about 3 before it was completely back to normal. I was icing it everyday and popping Motrin just to get it lose enough to be able to hit the gym man. Not fun....but like i said ive had friends say its smooth for them so who knows..

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    Mabey its just me, but it seems like everyone is so hell bent on infections and running to the doc. I no im very sterile when i pin, and with prop, sometimes my thigh gets so red, hot and itchy, but i no in 5 days it will be gone. I was actually gunna take daily pics of it so everyone can see the redness moving around my leg and dispursing. I think if i went to a doc, he would have told me it was an infection gave me the speach along with antibiotics. Lets face it, if it was an infection, and he said " your ok, its the steroids dispursing" that would be a lawsuit. I believe they would treat u as an infection and send u on your way... This is only my opinion, and by all means, if you think you have an infection, do what u gotta do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68ss View Post
    Its not everytime with quads. I have shot many times in the quads. My only problems have been in the quads.

    The muscle or nerve twitched about a half a CC in.

    Different spots on the same quad. The first time was lower outer, this one was higher up and a tad more inner.

    Some guys say that is normal if you hit a nerve or vein........Yet in 12 hours after meds injection, redness and pain is GONE.

    Yeah, Im done with quads for AWHILE, that sucks though. Less rotation.
    Take note of the specific spot within the injection site and stay away from it,I have a spot in every injection area left delt,right delt,even left glute...Theres nerves viens everywhere,try and remember the spot,this is what has worked for me....Good luck,feel better

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel405 View Post
    Mabey its just me, but it seems like everyone is so hell bent on infections and running to the doc. I no im very sterile when i pin, and with prop, sometimes my thigh gets so red, hot and itchy, but i no in 5 days it will be gone. I was actually gunna take daily pics of it so everyone can see the redness moving around my leg and dispursing. I think if i went to a doc, he would have told me it was an infection gave me the speach along with antibiotics. Lets face it, if it was an infection, and he said " your ok, its the steroids dispursing" that would be a lawsuit. I believe they would treat u as an infection and send u on your way... This is only my opinion, and by all means, if you think you have an infection, do what u gotta do.
    i hear what your saying, but overnight the redness-pain was GONE..........After an IM injection an antibotic.

    This is real....... So, if it was BA redness, nerve damage,steroids dispersing or whatever why would it go away so quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftony View Post
    Take note of the specific spot within the injection site and stay away from it,I have a spot in every injection area left delt,right delt,even left glute...Theres nerves viens everywhere,try and remember the spot,this is what has worked for me....Good luck,feel better
    thank bro, i appreciate that

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    I had a major problem with quads. The first two times I shoot there I couldn't walk for two days. Finally in like my sixth cycle I got the correct size pin and looked on s p o t i n j e c t i o n .com Now it's easy. Once I got an infection in my left ticep before and the doctor told me that it would now be more likely that I would get another infection in that same spot. Maybe that is what the case was with your left quad.
    i had shot there twice already, this was the 3 rd shot in that leg for this cycle.

    Im done with quad shots this run.......I will pick them up again next time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68ss View Post
    i hear what your saying, but overnight the redness-pain was GONE..........After an IM injection an antibotic.

    This is real....... So, if it was BA redness, nerve damage,steroids dispersing or whatever why would it go away so quickly.
    I dont no, everyones different. Like i said it was prop that does it with me, just the way my body reacts i guess. I will admitt, its pretty strange.
    There was a thread on here about a guy who was diagnosed with cellultitis, and had an ultrasound done and it turns out it wasn't an infection or absess. Thats what leads me to believe what i stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel405 View Post
    I dont no, everyones different. Like i said it was prop that does it with me, just the way my body reacts i guess. I will admitt, its pretty strange.
    There was a thread on here about a guy who was diagnosed with cellultitis, and had an ultrasound done and it turns out it wasn't an infection or absess. Thats what leads me to believe what i stated.
    Yeah but cellutitus is not the flu bro, this shit can get bad with the quickness.

    I could have waited another day i quess, but why chance it? Its 65 bucks. I know my body, I cant image waiting 5, 6 or 7 days and hope it passes.......

    Last time i waited 3 days, it took longer to heal then this one did. I got this one handled within 24 hours..........I know my body, if the shot is good- i know it within 12-16 hours.

    Not to mention, I remember a guy on here awhile back.....he let his infection or whatever get bad........... there were pics, it wasnt pretty.

    Big chunk out of his thigh.

    srs.

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    lol, i saw those pics.. Your right, its your body, you know yours i know mine...

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    Also, my gear is homebrew, I no whats in it, and that its sterile. Like i said, i know im very sterile too. Mabey thats why i hold off a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel405 View Post
    Also, my gear is homebrew, I no whats in it, and that its sterile. Like i said, i know im very sterile too. Mabey thats why i hold off a bit.
    im fairly confident i practice good sterility.......

    First time gear was a homebrew from a good source.

    This time is a known label with good feedback. Supposed to be one of the best to come in vials..........

    Once i run all my vials out,,,,,,,,its all HG Gear in Amps from then on out......

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    im the same, never gonna do quads again,.. delts for me

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    I am on HRT and I have to ask why do you guys keep changing up where you shoot up? Is it because you are taking it dayly and larger amounts compared to my weekly 100 units? I have to wonder even though I am only doing 100 units once a week that perhaps I should be changing from one thigh to the other? Been in the same thigh the past 6 weeks with no issue but you got me a thinking perhaps that should change.

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    Yes, you should switch them up to prevent scar tissue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel405 View Post
    Mabey its just me, but it seems like everyone is so hell bent on infections and running to the doc. I no im very sterile when i pin, and with prop, sometimes my thigh gets so red, hot and itchy, but i no in 5 days it will be gone. I was actually gunna take daily pics of it so everyone can see the redness moving around my leg and dispursing. I think if i went to a doc, he would have told me it was an infection gave me the speach along with antibiotics. Lets face it, if it was an infection, and he said " your ok, its the steroids dispursing" that would be a lawsuit. I believe they would treat u as an infection and send u on your way... This is only my opinion, and by all means, if you think you have an infection, do what u gotta do.
    I agree. People freak out to easy. They always say, "as long as it's not red or warm to the touch." That has happened to me many times. The only time I went to the ER was when my whole left arm swelled up from a tricep injection. They gave me an antibiotic and it was cleared up within two days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple Stack View Post
    And I use a 1.5" needle, BUT I cut the cap back to a little over a inch & put it back on - to block the needle from passing 1"
    Thats a good idea. Ive never thought of doing that before.

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    If its a problem just dont shoot there. i cant seem to ever shoot in my biceps without insane soreness next few days. but delts and tris i can shoot all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike View Post
    If its a problem just dont shoot there. i cant seem to ever shoot in my biceps without insane soreness next few days. but delts and tris i can shoot all day long.
    nice common sense advice.

    thank you.......

    I want to shoot quads, i just have to find the sweet spot.

    Next im will try the teardrops and see what happen.

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