Dbol, Deca, and Test E

[inbrakeible]

First stacking cycle

I had one cycle before this which was 10 weeks of test C at 500mg
my gains could have been better.

My next cycle I am going balls out. I am looking more for strength than size but I will take some size as well.

I am recently recovering from a shoulder injury which has set me back a bit in all my presses so I want to make up some ground and then some.
So lets cut to the chase

Cycle
Dbol weeks 1-4 at 30mg
Test E weeks1-10 at 750mg
Deca weeks weeks 1-8 at 470 mg

Stats:
25 years old
12 years exp lifting
height: 70 inches
weight: 190
Body fat:~10%
Bench:380 (before first cycle and should injury)
Squat:385
Deadlift:495

Critiquing welcome, I plan on doing adex for reduction of water weight .25 eod

[feeldapump89]

First stacking cycle

I had one cycle before this which was 10 weeks of test C at 500mg
my gains could have been better.

My next cycle I am going balls out. I am looking more for strength than size but I will take some size as well.

I am recently recovering from a shoulder injury which has set me back a bit in all my presses so I want to make up some ground and then some.
So lets cut to the chase

Cycle
Dbol weeks 1-4 at 30mg
Test E weeks1-10 at 750mg
Deca weeks weeks 1-8 at 470 mg

Stats:
25 years old
12 years exp lifting
height: 70 inches
weight: 190
Body fat:~10%
Bench:380 (before first cycle and should injury)
Squat:385
Deadlift:495

Critiquing welcome, I plan on doing adex for reduction of water weight .25 eod

Hmm this is a pretty advanced cycle for your 2nd many will suggest maybe just running the dbol weeks 1-4 30mgs is a decent dose and just the Test E but 750 is an excess. 500-600 is more than plenty and run it for 12-14 weeks if your looking for better results. Give the Deca a shot maybe after you try this cycle. Add one compound at a time you dont want to confuse things because if you have side affects you will have to find out which of the 2 new compounds are causing it which is nearly impossible. I let the big boys critique your stats.

[jixxxer]

I agree with the above

[aldemoro]

what when he finds out that he has got sides from test e is he going to drop test next time and do a cycle deca without test or what?

[feeldapump89]

what when he finds out that he has got sides from test e is he going to drop test next time and do a cycle deca without test or what?

No what im saying is he wont no what gave him the sides, the Test E or the Deca and he will have to start by dropping the deca first. Your not recommended to run Deca without some sort of Test i hope you no this. Looks like you need to do a bit more research my friend.

[Hunter]

You need to run at least an hrt dose of test when running a 19 nor i.e deca if you feel test is giving you unwanted sides. I would just run d-bol with your test and keep your test at 500mgs weekly.

[feeldapump89]

You need to run at least an hrt dose of test when running a 19 nor i.e deca if you feel test is giving you unwanted sides. I would just run d-bol with your test and keep your test at 500mgs weekly.

well said hows the new bow treating yea?

[Hunter]

well said hows the new bow treating yea?

Took it out just getting it shooting well. I am starting scouting for rifle season I do a program in which you bring youth out hunting with you. I am not hunting rifle season but doing muzzleloader instead so just scouting for my youth group and will do a little scouting during rifle season for when I go out muzzleloading. I shoot a cap lock T and C hawkins. I even cast my own round balls for muzzle loading.

[TITANIUM]

No what im saying is he wont no what gave him the sides, the Test E or the Deca and he will have to start by dropping the deca first. Your not recommended to run Deca without some sort of Test i hope you no this. Looks like you need to do a bit more research my friend.

Agreed!

[ninesecz]

This may sound crazy but you are looking for a lot of strength and you are just getting over a shoulder injury? That sounds like a sure fire way to blow that shoulder right out again!

[inbrakeible]

I have been rehabing my shoulder, and its gotten a lot better. I plan to still be careful with my shoulder and just listen to my body. I want to gain some size in my legs, but I want strength as well.

I am a hard responder to Test and other steriods. Last cycle I barely felt the 500mg. A few years ago I was on predinsone for a year and it took 6 months at 120mg a day to even start working, which my doctor was suprised

I am not worried about sides at these doses, and if it really comes down to it and I have to. Ill cut the deca.

[Hunter]

I have been rehabing my shoulder, and its gotten a lot better. I plan to still be careful with my shoulder and just listen to my body. I want to gain some size in my legs, but I want strength as well.

I am a hard responder to Test and other steriods. Last cycle I barely felt the 500mg. A few years ago I was on predinsone for a year and it took 6 months at 120mg a day to even start working, which my doctor was suprised

I am not worried about sides at these doses, and if it really comes down to it and I have to. Ill cut the deca.

You may not respond well to test but it may have been diet also. If you really believe it you dont respond to test you could run an hrt dose of test and up your deca alot of members esp a member by the name of taiboxa cycled like this. run test at 250 mgs weekly and run your deca at like 600 mgs weekly.

[Papa Smurf]

Remember, around week 3 or 4 the deca will start to mask any shoulder pain you may have.

I have to agree with ninesec here. Make sure you shoulder is completely healed first. I had both rotor cuffs repaired 18 months apart about 2 years ago.
Shoulder are fine now except for stiffness and minor aches.
When I ran deca for 10 weeks with my current Test cycle, my shoulders felt GREAT! Pushed the shit outta them.

Now that Im off the deca, They ache like a bitch on the rag! BE CAREFUL!


Also, get some caber or bromo to keep on hand in case of deca dick.

[inbrakeible]

Thanks guys I will consider all of these.
Good advise on being careful with my shoulder, I do realize that deca will mask my shoulder pain and I will be tempted to go heavier. I will "try" to resist this temptation and do what is right.

I will post when I start and what I am doing