Planning my first cycle with sust + Deca (Please Help)

**CaptnStabn** · 08-03-2009, 02:37 AM

I've got 10ml sust 250 and 10ml deca 200, I'm looking to shoot 1 ml of each once a week but I've heard deca is not very good for the inexperienced. Do you think sust and deca will be ok? and if not why?

Any help will be really appreciated,
cheers

**lovbyts** · 08-03-2009, 02:53 AM

First off Sus need to be shot ever other day and deca at least 2x a week.

NO it's NOT a good beginner cycle. Read a little and you will find out why.

If you decide to do it dont worry, we will all be here to laugh at you in a week or two when you are complaining.

Why, Go read and you will find out.

Now, what are your stats?

Age,
weight
body fat
height
cycle experience
PCT
work out experience

Diet???

**CaptnStabn** · 08-03-2009, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

First off Sus need to be shot ever other day and deca at least 2x a week.

NO it's NOT a good beginner cycle. Read a little and you will find out why.

If you decide to do it dont worry, we will all be here to laugh at you in a week or two when you are complaining.

Why, Go read and you will find out.

Now, what are your stats?

Age,
weight
body fat
height
cycle experience
PCT
work out experience

Diet???

Hey mate, I'm just asking for some advice, no need for your attitude.

My stats are:
Age: 23
Weight: 181 Pounds
Body Fat: 18%
Height: 5 7"
No cycle experience
Working out on/off for 6 years but only seriously in the past 9 months

The only reason why I got sust and deca was because it was recommended to be a quality first cycle by another member

**aldemoro** · 08-03-2009, 06:56 AM

shouldnt do sust is difficult eod

**TITANIUM** · 08-03-2009, 07:05 AM

Advise-Wait a couple of years to cycle.And if you are going to cycle, Test only.No exceptions.

The reason why you are catching flak, is due to the fact that, so many new "YOUNG" members want to gear up.Research HPTA, and you will understand why its not advisable.

**Papa Smurf** · 08-03-2009, 07:44 AM

My advice:

18% is on the high side at your young age to start a cycle. Check that diet first.

I would drop the deca or trade it for another bottle of sus.

Run your Sus. like this:

Week 1-10 1ml every 3.5 days will be fine. That will give you 500mg ew which is a good first cycle. No its not the optium way to run sus., but for a beginner it will be just fine and you can get us to shooting as well. Next cycle try and get Test E or C. Save yor deca and get some more for your next cycle.

Make sure you have your PCT gear in place before you start.

Good luck!

Papa

**lovbyts** · 08-03-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by CaptnStabn

Hey mate, I'm just asking for some advice, no need for your attitude.

My stats are:
Age: 23
Weight: 181 Pounds
Body Fat: 18%
Height: 5 7"
No cycle experience
Working out on/off for 6 years but only seriously in the past 9 months

The only reason why I got sust and deca was because it was recommended to be a quality first cycle by another member

Plenty of reason for attitude. Youre to young but you are going to do it anyways and probalby regret it like 90% of the people in a few years.

Your body fat is to high.

It is way to much for a first cycle.

Do you have a PCT planned?

What is your diet going to be like on cycle, before and after?

Someone advised you to do it, that doesnt make it right. you will get a lot more people advising you NOT to do it but Ill bet you wont listen.

**feeldapump89** · 08-03-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by CaptnStabn

Hey mate, I'm just asking for some advice, no need for your attitude.

My stats are:
Age: 23
Weight: 181 Pounds
Body Fat: 18%
Height: 5 7"
No cycle experience
Working out on/off for 6 years but only seriously in the past 9 months

The only reason why I got sust and deca was because it was recommended to be a quality first cycle by another member

If you dont like this attitude than trust me you better get used to it or pack your bags and leave. The board is only looking out for your best interest.

**ghettoboyd** · 08-03-2009, 12:24 PM

im shure that the same person that recomended this cycle to you was infact the same person who sold jack his magic beans.

**Twist** · 08-03-2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

First off Sus need to be shot ever other day and deca at least 2x a week.

NO it's NOT a good beginner cycle. Read a little and you will find out why.

If you decide to do it dont worry, we will all be here to laugh at you in a week or two when you are complaining.

Why, Go read and you will find out.

Now, what are your stats?

Age,
weight
body fat
height
cycle experience
PCT
work out experience

Diet???

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Plenty of reason for attitude. Youre to young but you are going to do it anyways and probalby regret it like 90% of the people in a few years.

Your body fat is to high.

It is way to much for a first cycle.

Do you have a PCT planned?

What is your diet going to be like on cycle, before and after?

Someone advised you to do it, that doesnt make it right. you will get a lot more people advising you NOT to do it but Ill bet you wont listen.

Originally Posted by feeldapump89

If you dont like this attitude than trust me you better get used to it or pack your bags and leave. The board is only looking out for your best interest.

You realize that this board is a place where people who know nothing come to seek advice from people who know more right? If you don't like people asking stupid questions then I think you should start your own exclusive board, or take a break from this one. 90% of the questions asked on here are stupid and 99.9% of them are stupid to someone, and probably 100% have already been asked before. so if you don't like the questions I think you should pack your bags up and leave.

Sorry to be a dick but I am sick of people getting told off when they ask for help

**lovbyts** · 08-03-2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

You realize that this board is a place where people who know nothing come to seek advice from people who know more right? If you don't like people asking stupid questions then I think you should start your own exclusive board, or take a break from this one. 90% of the questions asked on here are stupid and 99.9% of them are stupid to someone, and probably 100% have already been asked before. so if you don't like the questions I think you should pack your bags up and leave.

Sorry to be a dick but I am sick of people getting told off when they ask for help

In my first post I told him it was bad, I also told her to read and educate himself more on why instead of spoon feeding because you learn more that way. 2nd post after him saying I had an attitude I gave him one.

Now your advice please, do you think it's a good cycle for beginner?

There are plenty of first cycles that are fine and I say so. What's wrong with calling a spade a spade?

**Twist** · 08-03-2009, 03:04 PM

I was definitely more referring to feeldapump. but notice how the ops sometimes don't come back? It's because of the attitude we give them.

**Twist** · 08-03-2009, 03:05 PM

And I think deca is garbage anyway and definitely not good for a first cycle. your advice is good.

**ty357** · 08-03-2009, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

im shure that the same person that recomended this cycle to you was infact the same person who sold jack his magic beans.

haha that was funny. i love this site

**bass** · 08-03-2009, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by CaptnStabn

Hey mate, I'm just asking for some advice, no need for your attitude.

My stats are:
Age: 23
Weight: 181 Pounds
Body Fat: 18%
Height: 5 7"
No cycle experience
Working out on/off for 6 years but only seriously in the past 9 months

The only reason why I got sust and deca was because it was recommended to be a quality first cycle by another member

LOL...i am laughing as i am reading this post. don't worry bro, i got the same thing when i asked a stupid question, and boom i got reamed! but, in time you will get used to these people and you will appreciate them like I do, they are only looking out for you. of course nothing is wrong with asking stupid question, that’s how it all starts anyway... read the thread bellow, its really important, and try to read as many sticky posts as you can, it will save you time, pain and money. here is the post.

When you SHOULDN'T use AAS imho....

**.EA.** · 08-03-2009, 04:27 PM

Sustanon may be a pretty painful injection. That's why I switched over to Test E.

I would sell your Sustanon and get Test Enenthate instead.

P.S.: For more novice users of Sustanon, if you wanna take advantage of the Prop, use Prop.

**aldemoro** · 08-03-2009, 11:34 PM

listen to these guys man. they know what theyre talking about

**CaptnStabn** · 08-04-2009, 06:20 AM

Hey guys I've got no problem listening to experience, what I do have a problem with is when someone is genuinely looking for help and all they get is "your dumb" c'mon man give me a break.

Thank you to all the member who did give me helpful advice, I appreciate it

**Aodha** · 08-04-2009, 03:27 PM

This forum is great compared to others, especially ironmagazine.com. Those guys are complete DICKS! So far this site is just full of knowledgable helpful guys. Sure they might not tell you what you wanna hear, but they really arent dicks about it. So take head and learn...

**ScotchGuard** · 08-04-2009, 03:55 PM

The first post I made about my cycle after researching for 3 months got totally shot down. I felt like a total idiot. I was taking too much stuff too fast for my 1st cycle. I ate crow, stopped my cycle, PCT and now waiting to start the cycle the "right" way. That's straight Test E with nothing else. The guys on this board won't win and congeniality awards but they are very knowledgeable.

**feeldapump89** · 08-04-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Twist

You realize that this board is a place where people who know nothing come to seek advice from people who know more right? If you don't like people asking stupid questions then I think you should start your own exclusive board, or take a break from this one. 90% of the questions asked on here are stupid and 99.9% of them are stupid to someone, and probably 100% have already been asked before. so if you don't like the questions I think you should pack your bags up and leave.

Sorry to be a dick but I am sick of people getting told off when they ask for help

How did i tell him off? I dont understand all i did was tell him to get used to the attitude and that we are just looking out for his best interest. And some how you accuse me off telling him off and tell me to pack my things and leave? You have misunderstood what i was saying. All i was doing was trying to get him on the same page as everyone else. And here you are portraying me as the antagonist. You must have alot of free time on your hands and nothing better to do...

**Matt** · 08-04-2009, 04:33 PM

Yep i think its already been answered lol but here goes again...

Reduce your bf% to at least 14%, you dont want gyno issues and high bp...
Run a basic test only cycle, this way if you suffer any unwanted sides you'll know its the test thats causing it...
I like test e/c for a first cycle, less injections lol.....

Any other questions lol, dont hesitate to ask....

**CaptnStabn** · 08-05-2009, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Yep i think its already been answered lol but here goes again...

Reduce your bf% to at least 14%, you dont want gyno issues and high bp...
Run a basic test only cycle, this way if you suffer any unwanted sides you'll know its the test thats causing it...
I like test e/c for a first cycle, less injections lol.....

Any other questions lol, dont hesitate to ask....

You're a champ, sounds to me like the first thing I need to do is lower my bf and then do some more research

Cheers