Changing compund during a cycle

**Freak101** · 08-03-2009, 11:15 PM

I am in week 4 of my prop, deca cycle, i was thinking of changing the prop to Test e, i hit the prop eod 100mgs, how can i successfully change compounds?

**operationgetbig** · 08-03-2009, 11:21 PM

id overlap the two and run both the prop and test e together for a couple weeks because of the differences in esters. then drop the prop after 2 or 3 weeks.

**Freak101** · 08-03-2009, 11:29 PM

so basically run test e and prop together for 2-3 weeks, will this not have a negative effect on my blood levels?

**anabolictonic** · 08-04-2009, 01:24 AM

u will have more test in ur system for a bit. You could figure out how to implement the test e and taper the prop if you want to keep levels stable... shoot like 100mgs prop and 250mgs test e day one of the switch then 2 days later shoot 90mgs prop then 2 days later another 250mgs test e and 70grams prop etc... im sure thered be a forumla for it if u tried hard enough

**Freak101** · 08-04-2009, 01:40 AM

Hmmmm yeah i get what you saying, but damn to get the correct dosage from the prop is gona b a mission....what to do what to do....darn prop is just too limiting for me started on the quads cudnt walk moved to the glutes less pain but still hurts like a mutha,can either try running it for another 4 weeks with the deca or change to test e run for another 8 weeks...

**anabolictonic** · 08-04-2009, 02:10 AM

yer i no wat u mean about the prop, u could try what i did i shot eod in the glutes and the ed in the quad. So i would inject 150mg into left glute then day 3 i would inject 150mg into right glute then day 5 inject 75mg into left quad then day 6 75mg into right quad... it stopped my quads from getting too sore and stil gives u 6 days till u hit the same site again. U injecting really slowly of course? that makes a big difference for me.

Also for the record i switched from test e to prop in my last cycle and figured out how to taper the test e and the prop but i think that would be easier than switching the other way round as i was bringing in the fast acting ester not the slow ester

**anabolictonic** · 08-04-2009, 02:13 AM

yer i no wat u mean about the prop, u could try what i did i shot eod in the glutes and the ed in the quad. So i would inject 150mg into left glute then day 3 i would inject 150mg into right glute then day 5 inject 75mg into left quad then day 6 75mg into right quad... it stopped my quads from getting too sore and stil gives u 6 days till u hit the same site again. U injecting really slowly of course? that makes a big difference for me.

Also for the record i switched from test e to prop in my last cycle and figured out how to taper the test e and the prop but i think that would be easier than switching the other way round as i was bringing in the fast acting ester not the slow ester

**Freak101** · 08-04-2009, 02:36 AM

Well i just about did that, today i have to shoot again, i'v hit my quads and glutes, the thing is i dont mind the pain but it F*cks with my leg day and i'm a legs person,

2weeks ago i shot in my left quad, picked up what i thought was an infection so i went to the doc and he gave me anti-biotics, shot 5 days later and wasnt that bad but than i put a heat pack and my whole quad swelled up, so the doc gave me some painkillers and anti inflamtory's also and the painkillers work a charm, now i dont want to be on pain killers all the time but they do help reduce the pain so i can train

Anabolictonic how long did you run the Prop for bro? what was your previous cycle?

**Freak101** · 08-04-2009, 06:21 AM

Bump

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-04-2009, 07:04 AM

no need for all of that, just switch over.

**Freak101** · 08-04-2009, 10:54 PM

Wont there be a sudden drop in test levels if i just stop using prop and go into Test E?

**Freak101** · 08-05-2009, 05:30 AM

Bumping for anyone to help with the change from Prop to Test E

**Aizen Sosuke** · 08-05-2009, 07:56 AM

Most people change over to propionate towards the end of the cycle so they could start PCT sooner but anyways here it goes. Week 1 shoot 100mg of propionate and 250mg of enanthate on Monday. On Wednesday shoot 100mg of propionate again. On Friday 75mg of propionate and 250mg of enanthate. The following week shoot 75mg o propionate on Sunday and 50mg Tuesday and Thursday. On Monday and Thursday you shoot enanthate at 250mg and you are done with the propionate.

**Freak101** · 08-05-2009, 10:41 PM

I'm still undecided on what to do, i'm leaning towards running prop for another 4-6 weeks, whats the suggested cycle for prop, i'v had people tell me 8 weeks(bare in mind i am running deca as well) this is where i thought changing over to Enanthate would be advantageous, i could have run the Test e for 8 weeks longer and stop the deca on the 7th week of the 8 weeks running Test E

**Aizen Sosuke** · 08-06-2009, 07:18 AM

8 weeks would be fine for propionate . The problem is you are also running deca . The decanoate ester will last about 21 days from your last injection so you would have to stop deca in week 5 of the current cycle. That's nowhere near as long as deca should be run. You'd be best getting some more propionate and running it up to 12 weeks and stop the deca in week 9 or 10. Save the enanthate and next time run compounds with similar esters it makes the cycles easier and more efficient.

**Freak101** · 08-07-2009, 05:05 AM

How long before i run PCT? is it still 2 weeks?

**Freak101** · 08-07-2009, 05:15 AM

Tnx Aizen for the assist

**RANA** · 08-07-2009, 06:48 AM

with prop PCT starts 3 days afterwards.
Why dont you injected in different areas? Pec, shoulder, I stay away from quads with prop

**ninesecz** · 08-07-2009, 07:36 AM

Even though the test e is a long ester, you are still going to be pumping 500mg or so a week into your system! I would (if it was me) Switch like you want to! and just shoot the Test E 2X a week and just shot a small about of prop every EoD ofr the next 10 days or so at maybe 50mg EOD. Once you get the E in your system you willbe fine, just give it a week or so for your body to get used to it!

**anabolictonic** · 08-08-2009, 11:29 AM

i only ran it for 3 and a half weeks at the end.

Im in the middle of a 6 week prop cycle at the moment and already sick of shooting eod i think longer esters might be my cup of tea from now on.

Originally Posted by Freak101

Well i just about did that, today i have to shoot again, i'v hit my quads and glutes, the thing is i dont mind the pain but it F*cks with my leg day and i'm a legs person,

2weeks ago i shot in my left quad, picked up what i thought was an infection so i went to the doc and he gave me anti-biotics, shot 5 days later and wasnt that bad but than i put a heat pack and my whole quad swelled up, so the doc gave me some painkillers and anti inflamtory's also and the painkillers work a charm, now i dont want to be on pain killers all the time but they do help reduce the pain so i can train

Anabolictonic how long did you run the Prop for bro? what was your previous cycle?

**Freak101** · 08-10-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by RANA

with prop PCT starts 3 days afterwards.
Why dont you injected in different areas? Pec, shoulder, I stay away from quads with prop

Well to be quite honest, been shooting in the quads and i' almost used to it, the pain is still there but its not as bad as when i 1st started in the quads, now i'v only recently started hitting the glutes and i have these knotts that hurt, can barely turn over when i'm sleeping, a friend of mine said he experienced the same thing, never with prop though more with the water based stuff like suspension, damn i gets these lumps on my glutes that take about a week to go away

i'm a bit worried when hitting on the upper body while on prop, for one i've never hit upper body shots and 2ndly if i get these knotts that could mean a whole week off not training

Thanks Ninesecz appreciate the feedback, i think i'm just going to run the prop to end

**Freak101** · 08-10-2009, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by anabolictonic

i only ran it for 3 and a half weeks at the end.

Im in the middle of a 6 week prop cycle at the moment and already sick of shooting eod i think longer esters might be my cup of tea from now on.

Yeah i know what you mean, my previous test e cycle was painless but i had alota side effects, bloating,acne,gyno symptoms, with prop i dont have any off them as yet and my strength is instant, i also like the pump i'm getting from prop, so yeah gota weigh up the benefits vs the pain i guess, i'l probably be with you on saying that "i'm sick of shooting eod i think longer esters might be my cup of tea from now on" but i'l also prob change my mind cos i want to run shorter 6 week cycles.

Jus as a matter of interest what's your pct for the 6 week prop cycle you busy with?