My source just informed me that most producs from UpJohn that are still circulating are fakes. He claimes that UpJohn closed down and trying to get real Winstrol V is nearly impossible. Furthermore, he claims that all Winstrol products that are labelled V are fake, because V is a trademark of UpJohn. Therefore in his eyes, Stanol-V from Ttokkyo is a sub-division of UpJohn, (which is supposed to be closed), so it must be fake. WTF? Please enlighten me guys.