First Cycle any input

**the_connect** · 08-05-2009, 05:19 AM

All,

This is my first cycle and I have put on my body armor and am ready to be shot down as I am sure there is something I am doing wrong which is why I am asking for more advice. As for the HGH I was told I can take it continually throughtout cycles and was curious as to what truth that holds and how much is also recommended. Thanks to all who contribute no matter positive or Negative.

Age: 25
weight: 170
body fat: 15%
height: 5'10
cycle experience: NONE
PCT: noted in the cycle
work out experience: On and off since high school and last 4 months hit the gym hard.

week1-sus 500mg-deca 400mg-HGH
week2-sus 500mg-deca 400mg-HGH
week3-sus 500mg-deca 400mg-HGH
week4-sus 500mg-deca 400mg-HGH
week5-sus 500mg-deca 400mg-HGH
week6-sus 500mg-deca 400mg-HGH
week7-sus 500mg-HGH
week8-sus 250mg-HGH
week9-HGH
week10-HGH
week11-clomid 100mg-nolva 40mg-HGH
week12-clomid 50mg-nolva 20mg-HGH
week13-clomid 50 mg-nolva 20mg-HGH
week14-nolva 20mg-HGH

**the_connect** · 08-05-2009, 05:20 AM

Saizen is the HGH I was told to use by the way.

**Ernst** · 08-05-2009, 05:34 AM

Terrible first cycle. You are light years away from needing hgh. Don't even bother with that yet. Honestly, it's up for debate whether you are even ready for any cycle given your info (prepare to be accosted by the AR goon squad lol). And just for the record, the timing there is a little off...

IF you decide to go that route... test alone is generally recommended for a first cycle, for a lot of good reasons.

***What does your diet look like?*** This is very likely where you are going wrong!

What about your workout split?

**the_connect** · 08-05-2009, 06:09 AM

Thank you. I have heard though that HGH is great for recovery time as well as cutting weight. My diet is pretty rough right now just tuna wraps, salads, protien drinks or bars, and then a large meal once a day but that is just in the last month prior I was doing well and losing weight. If a good diet plan is in order I would appreciate some advice as well as I know dieting is the largest part in this equation. As for timing I am not understanding if you could also shed some more light.

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 06:43 AM

Sorry to bust your bubble but that cycle is terrible, you definately dont want to be using hgh on a first cycle, your cycle should be simple with 1 or 2 compounds max.Also your pct needs sorting out as well

**Matt** · 08-05-2009, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

Sorry to bust your bubble but that cycle is terrible, you definately dont want to be using hgh on a first cycle, your cycle should be simple with 1 or 2 compounds max.Also your pct needs sorting out as well

Bust should be burst and difinatley should be definitley...

Your welcome..

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Bust should be burst and difinatley should be definitley...

Your welcome..

I agree with the bust and burst but thats how we say it down south son,i think you have spelt definitely wrong not me...lol

Your Welcome...lol

**Matt** · 08-05-2009, 07:14 AM

Definitely...

***El Diablo*** · 08-05-2009, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

I agree with the bust and burst but thats how we say it down south son,i think you have spelt definately wrong not me...lol

Your Welcome...lol

U forgot that Matt is Welsch, they speak very indiffrently in that place of interest. lol

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 07:19 AM

Definitely

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

U forgot that Matt is Welsch, they speak very indiffrently in that place of interest. lol

Its welsh not welsch...lmao

***El Diablo*** · 08-05-2009, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

Its welsh not welsch...lmao

LOL, Ma Bad sorry PIKEY!

**Matt** · 08-05-2009, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

U forgot that Matt is Welsch, they speak very indiffrently in that place of interest. lol

Please explain what Welsch is?????

***El Diablo*** · 08-05-2009, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Please explain what Welsch is?????

It is people that used to live in Wales, but then the Welsh gotten sick of "those Pikey" kind of people, so they deported all of them into their own little "Wales" within Wales and they called those people "Welsch" .... <----- Those "welsch" people are the rubbish people, and Mad Matt is the President of them lol

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 07:26 AM

Lmaoo^^^^^S.A pikey

**Matt** · 08-05-2009, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

It is people that used to live in Wales, but then the Welsh gotten sick of "those Pikey" kind of people, so they deported all of them into their own little "Wales" within Wales and they called those people "Welsch" .... <----- Those "welsch" people are the rubbish people, and Mad Matt is the President of them lol

True story. lmao..

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 07:28 AM

Oh you was right matt i googled it as well

***El Diablo*** · 08-05-2009, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

Lmaoo^^^^^S.A pikey

LOL.. We call Pikey's in Souf Africa "Zulu's"

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

True story. lmao..

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 07:30 AM

hahaha you zulu

I think we have gone a bit off topic here SORRY O.P

**TITANIUM** · 08-05-2009, 07:41 AM

Too much gear for your first run. Test should be a more logical approach.

Mad Matt has a funny sense of humor!I like it!LOL

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 07:47 AM

Dont encourage him...lol

***El Diablo*** · 08-05-2009, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

dont encourage him...lol

lmfao!..

**TITANIUM** · 08-05-2009, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

Dont encourage him...lol

Have to joke around a little bit, or you'll go insane!!!Laughter is the best medicine>LOL

**sigman roid** · 08-05-2009, 08:34 AM

I agree bro

**the_connect** · 08-05-2009, 09:56 AM

So what exactly should I be doing for a cycle can anyone replace mine with a proper first cycle as I have bought all of this and it will now just sit in my closet and ask me to use it every day. Can you give me an answer I can tell the leftovers....

**thai-lan** · 08-05-2009, 10:03 AM

horrible first cycle and i thought matt was french??

**largerthannormal** · 08-05-2009, 10:04 AM

simple test cycle 500 of a more simple ester enanthate or cyp. and HGH should be started taken 8-10 weeks prior to a cycle to best results. just do a simple one and see how u react u shold do great at your stats and about 12 weeks of a long ester...

**the_connect** · 08-05-2009, 10:06 AM

Can someone also help me out with the sorting of my PCT do I need ot take Clomid or will the Nolva alone be fine?

**TITANIUM** · 08-05-2009, 10:07 AM

Just run the sust by itself.It's 4 esters all together.Only difference.You could get straight test, but sust would be ok.

Save the rest of your gear for later runs.Be patient.You have to see how your body reacts to AAS first....

**largerthannormal** · 08-05-2009, 10:08 AM

agreed...send me the hgh.

**the_connect** · 08-05-2009, 11:05 AM

HGH was not all that cheap or I might kick you a bottle for the info... LTN... Thanks for the input much appreciated adn if anyone else wants to toss in a couple of pennies feel free....