First cycle concerns...

**forced302** · 08-05-2009, 10:32 PM

I'm 5 weeks into my very first cycle. It's Sus & Deca ... My cycle is 1cc of sus & deca, twice a week. (don't know what that equates to in mgs) I've seen no gains, my weight hasn't budged a pound and I'm getting suspicious. I bought from a 10 yr. user and friend from gym that I've known for 3 years. I'm concerned that it's not legit stuff. Is there certain steroids that just don't work for some people? Should I look at different stuff from my next cycle? I've got pictures of it...can anyone help ease my concerns? Is there such a thing as slow gainers when it comes to cycling?

**CaliPhotog** · 08-05-2009, 10:41 PM

Edit your photos dude. You can get the lab and url if you look close at the bottles. It looks like that stuff is dosed at 200mg/ml.

**CaliPhotog** · 08-05-2009, 10:42 PM

No experience with those in particular, but 5 weeks in you should be seeing some results.

**TITANIUM** · 08-05-2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by forced302

I'm 5 weeks into my very first cycle. It's Sus & Deca... My cycle is 1cc of sus & deca, twice a week. (don't know what that equates to in mgs) I've seen no gains, my weight hasn't budged a pound and I'm getting suspicious. I bought from a 10 yr. user and friend from gym that I've known for 3 years. I'm concerned that it's not legit stuff. Is there certain steroids that just don't work for some people? Should I look at different stuff from my next cycle? I've got pictures of it...can anyone help ease my concerns? Is there such a thing as slow gainers when it comes to cycling?

OK-How old are you?

sust is 2x wk =500mgs

deca is 2x wk =400 mgs

You need to know the mgs per cc to do this right.

Usually this is the dosing. But this is the first cycle, so if your old enough in the first place, you would run the sust only.(test E would be a even better choice).

Your mgs are too low also.(I pointed this out allready).

It also takes some time to see results.They are not instantaneous.

As far as your gear being legit, get it tested.

The pics should have been posted in another part of the forum.(self explanatory)

And no UG names on the forum.(Your pics).

**ninesecz** · 08-06-2009, 12:46 PM

Titanium is right.. The Deca even at very high doses most will tell you 6 weeks Min. before seeing any gains in harness strength etc.. as far as the sust... Same thing for the long esters in it... If you are shooting at least 400mg a week you should have seen a little strength and a little bloat from the prop by now. Maybe not though, there is only 30 or 60mg of short ester in sust if I remember correctly and maybe you just are not noticing it!

Biggest question is...... How well do you trust this guy??? I would have hoped after 3 years and enough conversations that you both felt comfortable doing an illeagal transaction that you would pretty well trust that he is not robbing you! Plus has he used those same items?? have you seen the gains on him?? If he were to sell you bunk gear (gear he knew was fake) wouldnt it be a little wierd for him to still talk to you after 10 weeks of no gains? Give it till the end of week 6! if you still feel absolutely nothing , then I would say with some certainty that is is bunk! Still, maybe he got bunk gear this time and sold it to you without being aware of that! You never know

**forced302** · 08-06-2009, 09:28 PM

Thanks for all the advice...

let me see if I can answer some of the questions...

I'm 34, 6'2", 235lbs. They are 200mg...is 400/week not enough? Maybe I was falling into all the hype about how the first cycle is always your biggest gains...I just assumed it was quicker to come.

Someone mentioned having it tested...I'm up for that. One question is how much extra do I need to buy to send out? It's not cheap so that's why I'm asking.

I do trust him and he looks fantastic using that same stuff... I wasn't concern so much as if its the right stuff but more of if it's the right stuff for me. Does everyone have the same results from the same stuff? ..or does is person gain better on different stuff.

**forced302** · 08-06-2009, 09:33 PM

the photos seemed questionable so I took them off. I'm not sure what part is the "UG names" are so i took them off until I figure that out. I'm new and don't want to break any rules out of the gate...

**Phate** · 08-06-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by forced302

the photos seemed questionable so I took them off. I'm not sure what part is the "UG names" are so i took them off until I figure that out. I'm new and don't want to break any rules out of the gate...

no problem bro, thanks for taking down the pictures

did you have any other questions? to answer your inquiry about speed, sust and deca (especially deca) will take several weeks before you really notice them working well