Some concerns I have with this cycle

**CrazyHorse13** · 08-08-2009, 04:20 PM

I am doing a Epistane and H-dol cycle for 6 weeks

I have heard some concerns.....

1. 6 weeks is too long to run the orals

2. I wont have Test in my body....(Can someone explain this to me)

If you need any info just let me know

**Necrosaro** · 08-08-2009, 04:32 PM

6 weeks is fine as long as you are running the right orals but should be ran with test.

Your bodies natural test production will be hindered due to the fact of a outside source comming into a internal source. Your body says 'Hey I am getting an outside source now....no need to make this stuff anymore" This causes your body to slow down or stop your test production which means it is always best to have some test comming in to keep Mr. Peter happy and the ladies.

**CrazyHorse13** · 08-08-2009, 09:47 PM

Thanks man that was funny

Ok so here is the cycle
1 week Epi - 40 H-Drol - 50 (2 capsules of Liv 52) (500 mg of Milk Thistle)
2 week Epi - 40 H-Drol - 50 (2 capsules of Liv 52) (500 mg of Milk Thistle)
3 week Epi - 40 H-Drol - 50 (2 capsules of Liv 52) (500 mg of Milk Thistle)
4 week Epi - 40 H-Drol - 75 (2 capsules of Liv 52) (500 mg of Milk Thistle)
5 week Epi - 40 H-Drol - 75 (2 capsules of Liv 52) (500 mg of Milk Thistle)
6 week Epi - 40 H-Drol - 75 (2 capsules of Liv 52) (500 mg of Milk Thistle)
7-10 week Nolvadex 40, 20, 20, 20 (2 capsules of Liv 52) (500 mg of Milk Thistle)

I am also on Optimum Nutrition Protein with a multivitamin, taurine, Fish Oil and Creatine......

So this is my cycle ...its a cutting cycle.....I have my diet dialed in...

So I guess my question is how much test would I need to do this right.....

**Necrosaro** · 08-08-2009, 11:01 PM

This is my own personal advice and hopefully someone will correct me if I am wrong.

Firstly I would like to know if you got your diet checked out first just in case so you can achieve the best results on your cycle and if you have had some other previous experience in gear. If everything checks out then lets go forward and figure this out.

When building a cycle you should always add some form of test to it. The cycle you have there looks a bit werid to me? What are your goals for your cycle? Certain orals can only be ran about 4 weeks while some can be ran for 8. Your cycle looks a little out of place. Just let me know what you want to get out of it by posting here or in a e-mail message.

**ninesecz** · 08-09-2009, 12:55 AM

You are on a steroid board trying to get information about doing a cycle of Pro Hormones for one! and for 2 it does not matter what you are running you need to have testosterone in the cycle somewhere! These compounds will all eventually end up shutting down your natural HPTA and that needs to be replaced in order to get maximum results. If you do not care about max results then why are you running them anyway but you still need to do a proper 4-5 week PCT session after using those! IMO that cycle is very very liver toxic and if you are going to beat up your liver, you might as well do the real thing!

**CrazyHorse13** · 08-09-2009, 12:49 PM

Thanks guys...I kinda feel like I am taking a beating for doing this wrong....but keep it coming because I want to do everything right.....I researched this for 5 months and it seems like there is always more to it.....so I am all ears....again I want to do this right.....So I am 4 days deep into the cycle above.....So I need some help.....

**gymnerd** · 08-09-2009, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse13

I am doing a Epistane and H-dol cycle for 6 weeks

I have heard some concerns.....

1. 6 weeks is too long to run the orals
6 wks is ok IMO if doses are moderate IMO.2. I wont have Test in my body....(Can someone explain this to me)
[B]People will argue that you dont need test to run a DS I will always so there is no difference IMO thatn running a dbol only or winni only cycle same principals apply.
If you need any info just let me know

Thats my take on it its entirely up to you though.

**CrazyHorse13** · 08-09-2009, 01:32 PM

I just dont want to be shut down.....

And with the milk thistle and liv 52.....wont that help my liver....I know this is toxic

**CHAP** · 08-09-2009, 01:51 PM

I need your stats and ph/ AAS cycle history.

6 weeks is going to be fine. This compound is not as hard on the liver as people think. But it is still not good for the liver. Its your HDL's and LDL's that will get jacked.

If your over 200 pounds Id run it at 100mg per day try to take 50 in the morning and 50 half wat through the day.

I do this to keep a stedy bloodlevel of the oral compound.

Send me a PM with your stats and history.