Hello All! Im a newb! But I have studied and now I have questions.

[T-MOS]

so basicly your telling me steroids wont help with sorness and make me recover faster and it wont help me with stength gains? It will just sit in my system and do shit but hurt me?

so basicly ur telling me if im not at my natrual potential nothing will help me get there?

Not at all, I am saying you will make gains, then most likely Lose ALL that you may gain

it will mess with your hormones, it will prematurely fuse your growth plates and you risk your already HIGH amounts of natural hormones to reduce and not come back to full levels

but remember muscle takes FUEL to survive and grow, and if you don't feed them correctly then you are wasting your time

[Juturna]

so basicly your telling me steroids wont help with sorness and make me recover faster and it wont help me with stength gains? It will just sit in my system and do shit but hurt me?

so basicly ur telling me if im not at my natrual potential nothing will help me get there?

GNC.COM. Buy some L-Glutamine, Amino Acids and protein. That'll help more than steroids will.

[Juturna]

first of all im not lazy. And nothing is too hard bro. Im going to school for chiropractic med. LOL. Just completeing my 90 credits at massage therapy. Starting in august 24.

Yes change my name to: lonelysoldier1988

Apparently listing your exact diet is too hard...

Apparently asking for diet advice is too hard...

Apparently taking advice is too hard...

Apparently working out naturally is too hard. (You did say this, exact words).

[T-MOS]

I have asked ADMIN to change your name for you.... it may take a day

[lonelysoldier1988]

how long do you want me to wait b4 I start using them its not fair everyone looks great and when I train natrually hard as hell, eat clean and alot. All I ate for 6 months was chicken and tuna with mixed veges. 7 times a day making sure i hit 300 grams of protien a day. And I gained but the min. I kept on losing weight because maby I was doing to much cardio i dont know

this shit is to hard. I work hard wake up at 5am dedicated like you read about just it doesnt come together. I saw no progression in my chest at all. My arms were small

[T-MOS]

Here you go, just make sure you don't come back here complaining when it all goes bad for you cause you are not EDUCATED enough to handle this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[Juturna]

I will help you if you post in the diet forum... Nobody's diet is perfect and the advice a lot of us can give will help. If after 9 months of following our advice and working out properly you still feel that we've done no good and your still weak - hit this forum back up. Until then, post in the diet forum for starters.

[T-MOS]

how long do you want me to wait b4 I start using them its not fair everyone looks great and when I train natrually hard as hell, eat clean and alot. All I ate for 6 months was chicken and tuna with mixed veges. 7 times a day making sure i hit 300 grams of protien a day. And I gained but the min. I kept on losing weight because maby I was doing to much cardio i dont know

this shit is to hard. I work hard wake up at 5am dedicated like you read about just it doesnt come together. I saw no progression in my chest at all. My arms were small

Look I am sorry to burst your bubble and really not trying to sound HARSH, BUT
is it possible that you are NOT eating as well as you think or at least not the right way to gain muscle as you are not gaining???? is it possible that maybe your training is NOT what it really should be for Growth and maybe even you are over training??

IF you are open to these possibilities, then we can help you

we can look over your training
we can look over your diet

we can rebuild you
we can make you faster, stronger , better

the chicks will dig you

we have the technology
DO YOU HAVE THE MATURITY to listen??

[Juturna]

Hopefully you follow the advice and I catch you in the Diet Forum - if not, best of luck. I'm out.

[bass]

not getting alot of help on here. Just getting my throat chopped in. I just need to know a cycle that is good for just starting and how to go about doing it. I kinda need to know how to prepare them I have no clue is there a site to educate me about that subject

dude, are you crazy! these people want to save your life, get a clue...

i searched for over a year and I am still green when it comes to steroids. steroids will not get you where you want at this point, they can easily take you the wrong way and maybe kill you. so be smart and listen, it took me a while to get the point too. and BTW, after one year of searching online, this is the only place i can trust for guidance.

and if you still want to do a cycle, then i don't think anyone can stop you, but at least read this first.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=332958

then this, make sure you watch all the videos and don't fast forward,

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516

[lonelysoldier1988]

I followed empowered nutrition for 6 months I dont feel like putting all the meals down I mixed it up quite well but got lazy so I stucked to chicken, rice, and tuna.

Its hard to be me though, been though alot of bullshit with girls. Making me feel inferior thats what led me to be what I am now.

Im impatient i admit it but I deserve it to be impatient.

Back to the question do I have to be at my natrual potential to use steroids

first of all. here.

5-10

i think im 185 right now but i think im like 15% bf maby a little less perhaps.

I feel fat should I just do cardio? to not feel this way.

[T-MOS]

Do you squat? how often? how heavy

Do you do deadlifts? how often? how heavy?

How often do you do chest?
How often do you do arms?

Do you do wide grip pullups?


YES, too much cardio is NO good for what your goals state

[lonelysoldier1988]

give me a few minutes ill post everything meal plan that ill use during bulking. And so on just sit tight

[T-MOS]

I followed empowered nutrition for 6 months I dont feel like putting all the meals down I mixed it up quite well but got lazy so I stucked to chicken, rice, and tuna.

Its hard to be me though, been though alot of bullshit with girls. Making me feel inferior thats what led me to be what I am now.

Im impatient i admit it but I deserve it to be impatient.

Back to the question do I have to be at my natrual potential to use steroids

first of all. here.

5-10

i think im 185 right now but i think im like 15% bf maby a little less perhaps.

I feel fat should I just do cardio? to not feel this way.

I give up.....your own statements about being impatient and too lazy to answer our questions proves that you are NOT ready for steroids

this is YOUR LIFE HERE, you get ONE BODY, thats it. we are trying to help you NOT screw it up and you just don't care

good luck to you Bobby Henderson.... YOU WILL NEED IT

[tinytom777]

Look I am sorry to burst your bubble and really not trying to sound HARSH, BUT
is it possible that you are NOT eating as well as you think or at least not the right way to gain muscle as you are not gaining???? is it possible that maybe your training is NOT what it really should be for Growth and maybe even you are over training??

IF you are open to these possibilities, then we can help you

we can look over your training
we can look over your diet

we can rebuild you
we can make you faster, stronger , better

the chicks will dig you

we have the technology
DO YOU HAVE THE MATURITY to listen??

MY GOD T-MOS! where do you find the patience! you have given sound, educated and proven advice again and again and STILL his is unwilling to listen! how do you stay so calm! i do hope the best for this poor boy but i would of told him where to go about 30 posts ago lol!!!

[Juturna]

Age: 21
Height: 6ft
Weight: 175:
Bf%: 14-15%

5-10

i think im 185 right now but i think im like 15% bf

Damn you shrunk 2 inches and gained 10 lbs in an hour? Sounds like your diet is in check - your ready. Just google BUY STEROIDS. Question answered.

[T-MOS]

Damn you shrunk 2 inches and gained 10 lbs in an hour? Sounds like your diet is in check - your ready. Just google BUY STEROIDS. Question answered.

I was thinking the same thing...

I bet he is 16 and using his mommie's computer trying to impress the girls on myspace, or facebook, or twitter

[tinytom777]

I give up.....your own statements about being impatient and too lazy to answer our questions proves that you are NOT ready for steroids

this is YOUR LIFE HERE, you get ONE BODY, thats it. we are trying to help you NOT screw it up and you just don't care

good luck to you Bobby Henderson.... YOU WILL NEED IT

lol guess everyone has there limit!

[Juturna]

I was thinking the same thing...

I bet he is 16 and using his mommie's computer trying to impress the girls on myspace, or facebook, or twitter

LOL, as follows;

JackedNJuicin: Yeah, I'm like 6ft, 250lbs, 2% BF...
SEXYgirl69: OMG! You must be in the gym all the time!
JackedNJuicin: Well, nothing is too hard for me.
SEXYgirl69: Want to ****?
JackedNJuicin: Well... there was this mishap when I did my first cycle at 15... I kind of can't get a boner anymore... but we can make-out? OK?

[bass]

damn you shrunk 2 inches and gained 10 lbs in an hour? Sounds like your diet is in check - your ready. Just google buy steroids. Question answered.

lol....

[T-MOS]

LOL, as follows;

JackedNJuicin: Yeah, I'm like 6ft, 250lbs, 2% BF...
SEXYgirl69: OMG! You must be in the gym all the time!
JackedNJuicin: Well, nothing is too hard for me.
SEXYgirl69: Want to ****?
JackedNJuicin: Well... there was this mishap when I did my first cycle at 15... I kind of can't get a boner anymore... but we can make-out? OK?

^^^ priceless !!!!!

[lonelysoldier1988]

no im really 21 just frustraded

[Juturna]

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

I'm waiting...

[T-MOS]

no im really 21 just frustraded

so being frustrated causes you to forget the stats you just put down???

I think there is a LOT more to you than you are letting on here bobby...

I really dont' think you should pursue steroid use right now..... I think you need to get your life in order first , and get your attitude adjusted. If this frustrates you, then you definitely don't need steroids. as they can increase your frustration and aggression and I am thinking you don't need that right now

[Juturna]

MOM: Bobby was such a good boy,. I don't know what got into him.

[NS]

T-Mos - I dunno how you and others do it, how you have the patience and will power to give this good advice day in/out to all these newbies who don't listen and often get abusive. I take my hat off to you and all the others.

[T-MOS]

well, i just try not to take any of it personal....it IS the internet after all

and if he doesn't realize I am trying to actually help him and not stop him, then its HIS body and life he is screwing up.....not mine

[Navy-boi-kai]

heya guys been a while, so yea bro ive been reading your stuff and wow!!! PLse listen im 20 i was inpatient did stupid cycles young....you want to know a secret if your not eating right you wont grow no matter how much your taking!!!!!!

Bro im 5'11 and i weigh over 200 lbs in fact 204 today,

after cutting weight and burning fat!!!

Ive been in this longer than you have and i will say listening to you friends isnt smart at all!!!

Whats you lifts bro?

How about your training volume?

Cardio is a must but doingto much is hindering your gains!!! Heart is most important but dont go stupid with your training and cardio!!!

How often do u work out?

your outa try this

Chest and tri's - Chest-are you doing inclines db presses,incline flys, incline Bb bench press!!!! Mix it up 9-12 sets tri's 4-6 sets

Back and bi's- Back should have pulling pulling and more pulling excersises!!! 12-14 sets for back 4-6 six hard sets for bi's

Off

Legs ( legs grow better off of multibalanced attacks with high and low reps schemes) 16-20 sets

Shoulders 10-12 sets for shoulders

off
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you ever heard heavy weights builds big muscles? Guess what you got eat to lift those heavy weights!!!! Dont go workout chest 3-4 times a week not do legs one week. Lift whats heavy for you stop worrying about if your friend ca ndo db bench with 100's or 110's your not him.

Bodybuilding is an amazing sport you can achieve anything you want, ANYTHING!!! You have to put in the hard work and dedication that the other did!! You dont train 2 yrs and look like Ronnie Coleman!!!! Your not going to gain 10 lbs of PURE MUSCLE a yr. bro that doesnt happen not with out eating rite. I wish you the absoulute best and hope you will take the advice you have been given!! Listen to T-mos he is as smart as you can get in this sport!!! This site is amazing!!!

[pumper88]

Listen m8, i am only just old enough to start and im 24!

When i was 19 i really wanted to blast into steroids and when i was told by my friend on them i wasnt ready or at a goo potential i was mega pissed so i can understand your fustration. But these guys really know what theyr talking about so just wait a few years, research up and get your diet in check until your at your max potential without steroids...

[diesel405]

I cant believe this tread is still going on.....
His mind is obviously made up, tell him good luck..

[TITANIUM]

I'm not one for the usual smart ass joke, Mad Mat has that covered.

But:

The wheels on the bus go round and round.....................

[TITANIUM]

T-Mos - I dunno how you and others do it, how you have the patience and will power to give this good advice day in/out to all these newbies who don't listen and often get abusive. I take my hat off to you and all the others.

I told him the same thing last night in a pm.

It really is amazing that he can do it.

[T-MOS]

OP, you have YET to answer ANY of my question in order to help you but you think we should believe that you are mature enough to use steroids????

let me know if you really want any help

[ryan_me]

If you have but half the effort into your workout as you do trying to convince PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT AND TRYING TO KEEP YOU FROM POSSABLY SCREWING YOURSELF UP 4 LIFE you would get to where you want to be. At one time i was the same i thought i had hit a wall i just couldent seem to tone up or bulk up as quick as i wanted to. I wanted that first cycle so bad until a very knowledgeable friend (like whats here) showed me my flaws in my socalled perfect diet and workout. He told me to just try it 4 6 months and if i diddnt see the results i wanted he would buy my first 2 cycles for me. Long story short I QUICKLY found out my body wasnt ready for anabolics. Just listen to the bros here go to the diet section and see if maybe there is something else you could try. Apparently what you doing now isnt working. Steroids is not an easy road (as anyone who have used can tell you) Its still you who has to put in the hard work 50 lbs is still 50lbs no matter if your juicen or not. Just talk to the people here THEY WILL TEACH YOU! As long as your willing to learn.

[ryan_me]

JackedNJuicin: Yeah, I'm like 6ft, 250lbs, 2% BF...
SEXYgirl69: OMG! You must be in the gym all the time!
JackedNJuicin: Well, nothing is too hard for me.
SEXYgirl69: Want to ****?
JackedNJuicin: Well... there was this mishap when I did my first cycle at 15... I kind of can't get a boner anymore... but we can make-out? OK?

Juturna
NICE ROFLMAO

[marcus300]

Look I am sorry to burst your bubble and really not trying to sound HARSH, BUT
is it possible that you are NOT eating as well as you think or at least not the right way to gain muscle as you are not gaining???? is it possible that maybe your training is NOT what it really should be for Growth and maybe even you are over training??

IF you are open to these possibilities, then we can help you

we can look over your training
we can look over your diet

we can rebuild you
we can make you faster, stronger , better

the chicks will dig you

we have the technology
DO YOU HAVE THE MATURITY to listen??

Case closed, no more to say ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[lonelysoldier1988]

I understand what everyone is talking about. I believe stress played a big role in not making gains like I should have been I saw alot of growth in my back but my chest lacked that was 6 months of eating correctly and training hard with rest. Actually to be honest looking back maby I wasnt resting enough. Because working out and expecially cardio made me relax.

Here is my other problem since a bad break up im obsessed with looking good I need help with that.. How do I get passed it.. Man it makes it tuff if u only imagined.

[ty357]

obvious the guy is stressing out, and obvious hes tired of hearing get your diet in check you could do so much naturally blah blah blah. if he dont take heed to the needed advice from you guys then f it then. he wants steroid advice this is a steroid forum right.

[diesel405]

obvious the guy is stressing out, and obvious hes tired of hearing get your diet in check you could do so much naturally blah blah blah. if he dont take heed to the needed advice from you guys then f it then. he wants steroid advice this is a steroid forum right.

Your right... But he's gunna have to go and READ UP on things. Nobody is gunna spoon feed him bad advise.

[lonelysoldier1988]

Well all im saying is.. is there a way to use steroids at a moderate pace not to much just to increase my strength and aid in recovery. Im tired of being sore and not being able to bench 185 the next week and falling behind. Im not nesserially saying fill my plate up so I can look like arnold. All I want is a little help.

I can have a good diet and eat breakfest every morning with no taste. Its all good on that end. And I have a really good training reg.

If this isnt possible just say so and ill drop this argument.

And another thing off topic of gear.

Is swimming a good cardio instead of using a machine?