started my first cycle

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 09:42 PM

hi all, looking to start my first cycle

i am currently 21
5'8"
28% B/F
280lbs

i am currently 4 weeks in on

-70mgs dbol everyday
-2ccs Tren 300 twice a week
-3 ccs twice a week of Deca
-2ccs of Winstrol 250 twice a week

injecting into my delts with 18g 1.5" syringes with a great deal of pain

i am currently experiencing severe acne on my face/back and have large sensitive puffy nipples/breasts

i am looking for comments on my cycle and suggestions on making these severe side effects go away

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 09:44 PM

Holy Sh*t........I hope this is a prank?

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 09:46 PM

Nevermind that post

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 09:47 PM

what do you mean this is a prank? what am i doing wrong?

any help is much appreciated

**Juturna** · 08-12-2009, 09:50 PM

What the fvck? Obviously this isn't a joke but why on earth did you use this as your first cycle?

What PCT do you have on hand?

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 09:53 PM

i was talking to someone at the gym who looked liek they knew what they were doing, so i asked about steroids , so that cycle is what he reccomended...

what is PCT?

again, any help is much appreciated.

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 09:55 PM

You know I have read and researched alot but you need T-MOS or a vet to come and advice you......it can be fixed so don't get that worried.....you will get everything answered in here

**Juturna** · 08-12-2009, 09:56 PM

Alright listen Larry - you really messed up on this one.

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy . It's too late now to say 'read up on it', but your in a bad spot right now. I'll bring someone in to help you in a few minutes - sit tight.

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 09:58 PM

Ya I pmed T-MOS that dang superman must out posing for the ladies or something

**feeldapump89** · 08-12-2009, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

You know I have read and researched alot but you need T-MOS or a vet to come and advice you......it can be fixed so don't get that worried.....you will get everything answered in here

I can name a dozen reasons why i think this cycle should not even be continued and so can the Vets but lets hear what they have to say on this one. This guys lack of knowledge scares me.

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 09:59 PM

ok thank you very much for all your help!

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:01 PM

Agreed

**Juturna** · 08-12-2009, 10:01 PM

I can name a dozen reasons why i think this cycle should not even be continued and so can the Vets but lets hear what they have to say on this one. This guys lack of knowledge scares me.

It SHOULDN'T be continued - but I don't know the 'protocol' for getting him off without ANY PCT on hand and so many compounds after 4 weeks in without hurting him? I don't even know what to say...

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:01 PM

You are going to get some help man the vets on here are busy guys just chill out for a minute

**feeldapump89** · 08-12-2009, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

It SHOULDN'T be continued - but I don't know the 'protocol' for getting him off without ANY PCT on hand and so many compounds after 4 weeks in without hurting him? I don't even know what to say...

Its unfortunate yes he has fully shut down test production but i dont see it being at all healthy to try and save this cycle. As mentioned I am curious as to what the Vets have to say.

**Lemonada8** · 08-12-2009, 10:08 PM

helll u need to quit that cycle right away IMO, and start PCT... for a first timer juicer that is a very very very advanced cycle, and its a waste of ur time and money because you can get the same results (with out the severe sides) with a natural test compound (test susp, p, e, cyp)... you have no test base in your cycle so that is not gonna be good...
you need to see if you can find some nolvadex and HCG for certain... PCT is
nolva 40/40/20/20 (thats mg ed per week) and HCG 500 iu's EOD....

**monkeyman33** · 08-12-2009, 10:08 PM

sounds like a prank. This thread has been annoyed.

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

helll u need to quit that cycle right away IMO, and start PCT... for a first timer juicer that is a very very very advanced cycle, and its a waste of ur time and money because you can get the same results (with out the severe sides) with a natural test compound (test susp, p, e, cyp)... you have no test base in your cycle so that is not gonna be good...
you need to see if you can find some nolvadex and HCG for certain... PCT is
nolva 40/40/20/20 (thats mg ed per week) and HCG 500 iu's EOD....

Really? Thats it.....i really thought there be more to this

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:12 PM

i assure you this is not a prank, and am now very concerned

when should i start this PCT

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:13 PM

what will happen if i cant find any of these PCT's?

***T-MOS*** · 08-12-2009, 10:15 PM

sorry I missed this

lets start with the basics

28% bodyfat and 280 lbs

WHO told you to do a cycle of steroids ?? they need to be shot!!

you need to STOP now

IF you are taking Tren Twice a week, I can only assume its Tren E and that is BAD BAD BAD news for SO many reasons

Injecting with an 18 g needle??? are you NUTS?? this has to be a troll or a joke !!
into the delts no less............crazy

do you have PCT?
do you know what PCT is??

at 28% bodyfat, you are asking for LOTS of troubel!!

can you STOP now???

that would be best

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:16 PM

Considering its only been four weeks the only thing that has kicked in is the dbol and winn......or the tren if its short ester........RIGHT?

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:17 PM

did you even read my post before asking those questions? i dont want to be a douche but i am looking for assistance not be reamed out...

**Lemonada8** · 08-12-2009, 10:18 PM

well u can add clomid in, ... and truthfully after thinkin about it... maybe have some test susp, or test prop also... if he could start that asap, maybe can get some health back? like a real low dose like 25mg ED?? i dunno what you think about that?

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

Really? Thats it.....i really thought there be more to this

to the op : dont take my word for it, it sounds lik eur in a bad sit id say go to a doc and say what u did... truthfully be the best solution

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:21 PM

That what I wanted to say but not sure if it was correct.......get is test levels normal and then start pct asap.......but I wasn't sure that it would be right advice.....stopping sounds so much better though

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:21 PM

what will happen if i cant find and nolva, hcg or clomid? is there any way i can adjust this cycle to work for me? i mean i've already spent the money and i dont really want all this to go to waste..

***T-MOS*** · 08-12-2009, 10:21 PM

stop cycle

get PCT compounds......
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start running PCT compunds ASAP

regroup, get bodyfat down below 15% naturally, then consider a cycle that is TEST only

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:23 PM

The heck with the money its your life

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:24 PM

wont that take, like a really, really, really long time to get my body fat down that low? why is low body fat so crutial for steroids ?

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:25 PM

I would take that gear back to that IDIOT and probably do somethings that I will not say......and kindly ask for a return on my funds

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:26 PM

Stop worrying about your cycle........did you miss the point about your LIFE.....if you want then listen......

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:30 PM

well is this actually life threatening? is there anyone out there that can help me FIX this cycle?

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:33 PM

No no fixing jsut trash it or whatever.....do not be stupid listen to what T-MOS said

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:40 PM

i dunno i think ill take sevral oppinions rather than to one "T-MOS" said, doesnt seem like he knows much about this stuff anyhow..

thx guys

**largelarry81** · 08-12-2009, 10:42 PM

also seems a little bit full of himself...

**feeldapump89** · 08-12-2009, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by largelarry81

also seems a little bit full of himself...

Are you f***ing high!?!

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:46 PM

Whatever you think man.....good luck your going to need it....oh by the way check out the begiiner cycles you can google that one.....then check out side effects of high body fat.......oh and then look into HRT/TRT that should probably be a good read or possible future.......oh and if want to get advice but then refuse how it is given then so be it......go be an idiot but make sure to print this page out so if something does happen you want be another story on the news blaming AAS for your stupidity

**RangersLTW** · 08-12-2009, 10:47 PM

Oh and yes feeldapump you are spot on

**feeldapump89** · 08-12-2009, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

Oh and yes feeldapump you are spot on

As Will Farrel says in the movie stepbrothers "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0qsi1z4Fi8" lol. For some reason i dont think this guy is going to give it up. I think we should get the Vets in here for a Firing Session tare this guy apart than maybe he will pull his head out of his ass.