18 year old doing roids!!! help pls

**Averterity** · 08-14-2009, 01:45 AM

hi i am 18 years old, 169 pounds about 12-15% body fat i have been lifting casually for about 4 years of my life however about 4 months ago i got into heavy lifting. 2 months a go i started a cycle of the Ph decabolen. i took half the cycle as i split it with my friend with the pct of testradex and furzadrol with liver armor etc etc, i got pretty good gains however nothing serious. I now have a connect to get Dbol and i really would appreaciate some help with this, i know i will need a pct, but id like some help with cycling and what pct and other things to take while on it. Please dont sit here and say oh your only 18 dont do it because i have already done decabolen which is arguably worse and i will not listen to you if your trying to talk me out.

Thanks alot.

**freddyfresh33** · 08-14-2009, 01:52 AM

you are to young to even consider touching gear go to the diet forum start there then start training harder

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 01:52 AM

Hmmm. Sorry dude, you're going to get hammered in here.

**Averterity** · 08-14-2009, 01:56 AM

haha theres no point in hammering me, the good thing to do would be to help me out and give me good advice where as i could make a new avatar and say im 25 and ready to do some dbol. can someone just take this for what it is and help me out?

**G4R** · 08-14-2009, 01:58 AM

So you took one cycle, and you are convinced you are ready to take another one?

Do you know why we tell guys your age not to do any steroids?

**ryan_me** · 08-14-2009, 01:59 AM

Nobody here is gonna give you advice. Cause you are to young. You know the dangers
BE SAFE

**Averterity** · 08-14-2009, 02:01 AM

yes i do, and i honestly dont feel like i should be answering to you. i am just looking for help on this and if you think posts like this will talk me out your sadly mistaken. Please someone just help out out

**G4R** · 08-14-2009, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Averterity

yes i do, and i honestly dont feel like i should be answering to you. i am just looking for help on this and if you think posts like this will talk me out your sadly mistaken. Please someone just help out out

^^^Really?

Did you come looking for advice, or are you hoping we will tell you what you want to hear?

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 02:04 AM

Those things you have taken aren't steroids anyway. So if you can gain by taking nothing in effect, why not just keep doing so?

**G4R** · 08-14-2009, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by BokBok

Those things you have taken aren't steroids anyway. So if you can gain by taking nothing, why not just keep doing so?

Agreed.

Just add a good diet and strict training and you will get good results

**Averterity** · 08-14-2009, 02:10 AM

so your saying just take another cycle of decabolen, one of the strongest Pro hormones and that it better then Dbol? somehow i dont agree. I Reailize your trying to help me out in a healthy way but you have to understand that i am doing this regardless, i am not looking for what i want to hear i am looking for help in which i do not know.

**ryan_me** · 08-14-2009, 02:13 AM

Ask you doctor he can help.

**G4R** · 08-14-2009, 02:13 AM

You dont agree that real steroids like dbol are more powerful and can have more severe sides than PH?

Sigh.....

Good luck and BE CAREFUL

**Averterity** · 08-14-2009, 02:19 AM

guess ill be posting back as a 27 year old ill ttyl thanks for trying to save a young Newbie from destroying his body i understand trust me i do however you have to realize you have no hold over someone with there mind made up. thanks again tho

**Twist** · 08-14-2009, 02:27 AM

dude I am 21 on trt. just trust these guys. You will make way more gains when you get your diet and training in check. like way more than anybody with gear. its all about diet...
I have made more progress with diet than I have with any gear. I am not against you doing gear (I think it is stupid but I did it so I am not one to judge) just against you not doing it right. do these things: prime before your cycle, get all pct stuff, get testosterone, get a crazy good diet plan in check, work with the guys in the workout section on getting a good training program. Train and eat like an animal and after 4 months you will not even want to touch gear.

realize if you take gear you will lose everything once you come off and it will be really hard to gain.

***El Diablo*** · 08-14-2009, 02:30 AM

Can this Thread be locked Admin.

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Twist

dude I am 21 on trt. just trust these guys. You will make way more gains when you get your diet and training in check. like way more than anybody with gear. its all about diet...
I have made more progress with diet than I have with any gear. I am not against you doing gear (I think it is stupid but I did it so I am not one to judge) just against you not doing it right. do these things: prime before your cycle, get all pct stuff, get testosterone, get a crazy good diet plan in check, work with the guys in the workout section on getting a good training program. Train and eat like an animal and after 4 months you will not even want to touch gear.

realize if you take gear you will lose everything once you come off and it will be really hard to gain.

Exactly. Give the solid eating and solid lifting a try for a bit...

**Averterity** · 08-14-2009, 02:45 AM

ive tried solid lifting and eating for a bit more then a bit, ive been peaked at 265 lb bench(max) for about a month now. ive been lifting since 6th grade, wrestling since 1st grade and i know how to workout and eat correctly. I know probably more then alot of people giving me advice on hard work ethics. However i am a complete "newbie" at using Dbol or any AAS at this point. I know how bad Dbol can be, and i know the possible sides. I only ask for advice in which i do not know and i do not know the right things to aid me with Steroids. If no one has it in themselves to help just dont post back and ill get the message, thanks for your support in being good people however.

**ranging1** · 08-14-2009, 02:47 AM

kid ur t young for steroids

BUT since ur going to be doing ur little trick

DONT WASTE U TIME WITH DBOL, its not effective, itll make u gain alot of water weight, ull loose more then half of it, and ur sex drive will become none existant

**ranging1** · 08-14-2009, 02:50 AM

do some research, no one wants to give u advice, and we shouldnt

do some good research into different steroids and cycles
u can find ur own ansers, its the internet

clearly u havent researched since u want to do a dbol only cycle, do some research ull be amzed with what the internet can teach u

**Averterity** · 08-14-2009, 02:56 AM

well the kind sir i know was trying to convince me to do a dbol and test(cream) cycle then doing anadrol and deca after however i felt Dbol with a good pct and some liver support would be the better answer for someone like me but i understand no one would like to help an 18 year old with hurting his body. Trust me i do. I have researched all that i need to know about Roids Ph's creatine And all the other supps that go with it. I just want some real advice to put on 30 Lbs of muscle before i ship off. Thanks for being good people but i need some badass to tell me whats what. = P

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Averterity

ive tried solid lifting and eating for a bit more then a bit, ive been peaked at 265 lb bench(max) for about a month now. ive been lifting since 6th grade, wrestling since 1st grade and i know how to workout and eat correctly. I know probably more then alot of people giving me advice on hard work ethics. However i am a complete "newbie" at using Dbol or any AAS at this point. I know how bad Dbol can be, and i know the possible sides. I only ask for advice in which i do not know and i do not know the right things to aid me with Steroids. If no one has it in themselves to help just dont post back and ill get the message, thanks for your support in being good people however.

Eat more boy. Without the building blocks of muscle (food), no steroid will make you grow.

***El Diablo*** · 08-14-2009, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Averterity

well the kind sir i know was trying to convince me to do a dbol and test(cream) cycle then doing anadrol and deca after however i felt Dbol with a good pct and some liver support would be the better answer for someone like me but i understand no one would like to help an 18 year old with hurting his body. Trust me i do. I have researched all that i need to know about Roids Ph's creatine And
all the other supps that go with it. I just want some real advice to put on 30 Lbs of muscle before i ship off. Thanks for being good people but i need some badass to tell me whats what. = P

So if uve researched then why are u posting questions.

**Twist** · 08-14-2009, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Averterity

well the kind sir i know was trying to convince me to do a dbol and test(cream) cycle then doing anadrol and deca after however i felt Dbol with a good pct and some liver support would be the better answer for someone like me but i understand no one would like to help an 18 year old with hurting his body. Trust me i do. I have researched all that i need to know about Roids Ph's creatine And all the other supps that go with it. I just want some real advice to put on 30 Lbs of muscle before i ship off. Thanks for being good people but i need some badass to tell me whats what. = P

If you researched you would know that doing deca and anadrol is gonna **** you up bad. and also dbol is shit and test cream is shit too. seriously though

give me all of your stats.

PT · 08-14-2009, 03:40 AM

yea your not even taking steroids, what your taking it a legal prohormone

**DSM4Life** · 08-14-2009, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Averterity

ive tried solid lifting and eating for a bit more then a bit, ive been peaked at 265 lb bench(max) for about a month now. ive been lifting since 6th grade, wrestling since 1st grade and i know how to workout and eat correctly. I know probably more then alot of people giving me advice on hard work ethics. However i am a complete "newbie" at using Dbol or any AAS at this point. I know how bad Dbol can be, and i know the possible sides. I only ask for advice in which i do not know and i do not know the right things to aid me with Steroids. If no one has it in themselves to help just dont post back and ill get the message, thanks for your support in being good people however.

You asked for advice and we gave it. Now go away.

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

You asked for advice and we gave it. Now go away.

You're grumpy today aren't you

**Bigzrs01** · 08-14-2009, 06:12 AM

You'd think by now all these youngins would just lie about their age if they wanted information so badly..which makes you wonder how many of the newbies on this site are really who and what they say they are as far as their stats go...

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Bigzrs01

You'd think by now all these youngins would just lie about their age if they wanted information so badly..which makes you wonder how many of the newbies on this site are really who and what they say they are as far as their stats go...

Well at least some of them are honest. And maybe, just maybe, some of the stuff people say will sink in to their heads...

We can only offer advice but ultimately the young folk have to learn for themselves, even if it is from a mistake.

**liftw8t** · 08-14-2009, 06:29 AM

seriously this was the wrong place to go to ask that but I know if it were me I wouldnt mess with gear and since you already have used PH I would just stick with them and PCT correctly but thats me I would use something like Pheraplex and go on about my business and continue to grow. Leave Dbol alone plus it would be a waste cus you'll get all water too. Eat heavy you will be amazed on how much you can grow i took freakin tribulus last year and did the whole thing natural and in about 5 months had about 30-40lbs and kept 15-20 after i cut then lost another 7 for my show

**ty357** · 08-14-2009, 06:34 AM

i bet you if the op says he have 1000 dollars for any advise on a dbol cycle you guys wouldnt give a f if he was 18. ppl here acting like they get a pay check or something

**BJJ** · 08-14-2009, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by Averterity

hi i am 18 years old, 169 pounds about 12-15% body fat i have been lifting casually for about 4 years of my life however about 4 months ago i got into heavy lifting. 2 months a go i started a cycle of the Ph decabolen. i took half the cycle as i split it with my friend with the pct of testradex and furzadrol with liver armor etc etc, i got pretty good gains however nothing serious. I now have a connect to get Dbol and i really would appreaciate some help with this, i know i will need a pct, but id like some help with cycling and what pct and other things to take while on it. Please dont sit here and say oh your only 18 dont do it because i have already done decabolen which is arguably worse and i will not listen to you if your trying to talk me out.

Thanks alot.

Since you are asking for help, this is what I would reccomend you:

1. Go to see an endocrinologist, speak out and see how you can reverse your mistakes.

2. Train hard for the next 10 years, eat CORRECTLY and care about your health. Build a "body" with the right macro nutrients (carb, prot, fats) in the right percentage and supplement with the right micro nutrients (vit, min.) plus bcaa and gluta. I can be more specific if you want.

3. Go and check my pic, I am the living result and example of what I have just written. I never did a cycle. Now, 36 yo I am considering one!

Good Luck

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by ty357

i bet you if the op says he have 1000 dollars for any advise on a dbol cycle you guys wouldnt give a f if he was 18. ppl here acting like they get a pay check or something

Sorry, but that is too far from reality. People here are just pointing out the facts.

**crazy_rocks** · 08-14-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Averterity

well the kind sir i know was trying to convince me to do a dbol and test(cream) cycle then doing anadrol and deca after however i felt Dbol with a good pct and some liver support would be the better answer for someone like me but i understand no one would like to help an 18 year old with hurting his body. Trust me i do. I have researched all that i need to know about Roids Ph's creatine And all the other supps that go with it. I just want some real advice to put on 30 Lbs of muscle before i ship off. Thanks for being good people but i need some badass to tell me whats what. = P

what do you mean you want to put on 30 lbs before you ship off?

where are you going and when?

***El Diablo*** · 08-14-2009, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by ty357

i bet you if the op says he have 1000 dollars for any advise on a dbol cycle you guys wouldnt give a f if he was 18. ppl here acting like they get a pay check or something

what kind of rubbish are u talking here.

**BokBok** · 08-14-2009, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

what kind of rubbish are u talking here.

Lots of McBollocks.

**ty357** · 08-14-2009, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

what kind of rubbish are u talking here.

i dont see it as being rubbish but the op said hes going to do it anyway. whats wrong with giving him safe advise about dbol.

**dangerous dan** · 08-14-2009, 09:07 AM

the lad wants help...dont you think he deserves advice ? he maybe young...but he will do it soooo...i think the best way is to atleast make sure he knoes exactly what hes putting in his body, would you rather him run a cycle and not know what hes doing at all or do a cycle and have abit of knowledge on pcts ect..to make it as safe as its going to get for an 18yr old?

**ty357** · 08-14-2009, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by dangerous dan

the lad wants help...dont you think he deserves advice ? he maybe young...but he will do it soooo...i think the best way is to atleast make sure he knoes exactly what hes putting in his body, would you rather him run a cycle and not know what hes doing at all or do a cycle and have abit of knowledge on pcts ect..to make it as safe as its going to get for an 18yr old?

my point exactly

**Mooseman33** · 08-14-2009, 09:13 AM

theres nothing safe about running a Dbol only cycle regardless of age.

and this kid is thickheaded, no advice should be given, there are other boards that will be willing to help him, thats what makes this board the best, most wont give advice to people who shouldnt use.

and this kid should not use, dangerous dan and ty, ur points both suck................end of story

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