First Cycle using Deca how's this cycle layout look?

[IM MACHO]

Hey guys I'm about to start my upcomming cycle again but this time I am going to be using a few different compounds and wanted to get as much feedback from experienced members as I can. I had ran a Test E cycle @ 500mg/s a week with dbol @ 40mg/s per week for 12 weeks finished up about 4 months ago. I ran proper PCT that consisted of Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20 which got my natty test levels back great. Libido is just as good if not better to when I started this cycle. I also got all proper blood work from my family physician which everything came back good other then my liver enzymes were slighlty elevated and my good choloestrol was also slightly elevated. Now I'm considering running Deca this cycle and just want as much feedback to make sure that I am taking all the right precautions. Please chime in all comments are welcomed.

Here's my planned cycle:

Test E - 600mg/s week (300mg/s monday and thursday) 12-14 weeks
Deca - 300mg/s week (monday in same pin as test) 10 weeks

PCT: Clomid - 100/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
Prami - .5mgs E3 days can bump up to 1mgs

I also have Aromasin on hand should I use this instead of the nolva and run it at 25/25/25/25 or does the outlined pct that I have listed aggressive enough? I also got some Cialis just incase the man downstairs doesnt work properly, the girl wont be happy if I cant perform and knowing that I am running Deca I know there is always that possibility but hoping the prami will elevate that!

I also have another main question that I need answered with your guys opinions. I have Test P and am debating on running this the first 4 weeks of the cycle instead of an oral since its a short ester and seeming that the deca and test E or long estered I dont gotta wait around for 5 weeks for the test E and deca to kick in. However, I'm not sure exactly how I should run the test Prop. I know that since it is short estered it needs to be shot EOD. I just dont wanna go higher then 600mgs of test a week so my question is how would I properly be able to add the test prop into this cycle along with the test E and deca?

I hope I aint leaving anyting out as I wanna make sure that I am running this cycle correctly. Please chime in with any past experienced as I wont be running this until I got it perfected.

CHEERS IM MACHO!!

[RuhlFreak55]

looks good to me although i'm not familiar with this "prami"

[RuhlFreak55]

shouldn't have an issue with ur member with test being double your deca dosage....rule of thumb i've been told is 200mg over with the test and you should be ok.

[D7M]

stats?

looks fine to me too.

Prami is Pramipexole, for progesterone issues.

[RuhlFreak55]

stats?

looks fine to me too.

Prami is Pramipexole, for progesterone issues.

i just always run letro...catch all protection

[roserose]

You don't need to run test 200mg higher than deca. In fact many people run it 200 less with no problems. If I were you I would run the Deca at 400mg/EW for 12 weeks and the test for 14 weeks. I've run deca for 10 weeks and it felt like the time experiencing the benefits was to limited.

[roserose]

Also I would have HCG at least 1000iu for post cycle.

[roserose]

Make that 10,000iu HCG.

[roserose]

You can run the prop at 100mg eod, although it best to use prop ed, but it should work just fine.

[RuhlFreak55]

eff that...not toying with deca dick problems....

[RuhlFreak55]

hmmm mk so i see the other deca thread has this explained a bit better....perhaps i'm wrong, just acting off what i've run in the past and what i've been told.

[Gaspari1255]

I would up the dose of deca to 400-500mg. Otherwise, just drop it. Can't really see 300mg of Deca doing all that much.

[IM MACHO]

sounds good guys thanks for all the feedback!!

[Dog-Slime]

Everything looks good to me and 300mgs should be fine if its quality gear... If I were to change anything I would run the nolva at 20/20/20/20/20/20 (Yes 6 weeks!) As I remember reading that it takes this long for nolva to have the most benefit on test levels and deca can be pretty suppressive, tho the prami should help with that.

One thing I am concered with is your first cycle. Please god never run dbol or any oral for 12 weeks again. That is asking for trouble IMO.

[IM MACHO]

sorry I wasnt to clear in my other post.. I didnt run the dbol for 12 weeks I ran it for 4 weeks just to jump start me until the Test E had kicked in.. sorry for the scare as I know that would be a horrible decision!

[IM MACHO]

Do you guys think I should use the Aromasin or the Nolva for PCT as I have both on hand!!

[Spartan ^]

I would up the dose of deca to 400-500mg. Otherwise, just drop it. Can't really see 300mg of Deca doing all that much.

^^^agreed! Not familiar with Prami but Caber works great. I start it a week before I start the cycle. Good luck bro. I would run the deca at 500 myself...

[Spartan ^]

Do you guys think I should use the Aromasin or the Nolva for PCT as I have both on hand!!

I personally have better luck with the nolva. Im going to actually run mine 6 weeks on my next PCT. Something like 40/20/20/20/20/20. Along with clomid of course (and some HCG). JMO.

[gymnerd]

Prami is great. I think its usually run during cycle along with an AI though?

[IM MACHO]

Never used prami but gonna give it a go this time around.. gonna start out at .5mg E3Days and see how I respond... if I need to up it I will... this sound good?

[IM MACHO]

I personally have better luck with the nolva. Im going to actually run mine 6 weeks on my next PCT. Something like 40/20/20/20/20/20. Along with clomid of course (and some HCG). JMO.

Hey Spartan are you gonna run your Clomid for 6 weeks as well, and you said your going to add some HCG.. whats your doses on HCG for pct and for how long??

[Dog-Slime]

I know you asked spartan but I would not run the clomid but 3-4 weeks. It seems to work quicker than nolva but has more sides to it. And as to your aromasin or nolva question, nolva is better if just using one or the other but there is no reason you cant use the aromasin in conjuction with it.