Can you help me get past a plateau using oral steroids only?

[idoitbecauseiloveit]

I'm 25 and I've been weight training since 16. I started taking anabol tablets and later androlic around 20 years old. Last year for the first time I took anavar and also proviron and the results I've had are good. I've never injected because I have a phobia of needles. I'm sure many of you will say "man up" or "just get through it" but I've tried many different ways to get through it myself. I just need to know how I can achieve the best results from orals alone.

I finished an 8 weeks cycle 3 weeks ago of the following.

Anabol x 50mg per day
Anavar x 25mg per day
Proviron x 50mg per day

I train every day weights, 3 times a week I train weights twice. Each session is no longer than an hour. I train each muscle group every 72 hours and I do cardio 3 times per week for 30 minutes.

I want to achieve a more muscular physique, and 5%/6% body fat.

What would be a great oral cycle to do to help with this? I'm currently living in Thailand so can easily get hold of any oral easily.

[lovbyts]

Dont worry, a couple more oral only cycle you wont have to worry about it when you liver gives out and you are on Dialysis machine.

What are you doing for liver protection? The reason most of us man up so to speak is because we did our homework, got pounded on for asking about oral only cycles and learned it's a BAD idea.

[c-Z]

What love says........ Your liver will be trashed! 5-6 bf%? Thats pretty low. Dude why are you resorting to only orals.???

[JiGGaMaN]

meh. your liver wont get thrashed. it might, but those orals arent going to do much damage at moderate dosage. i mean, anyone who gets their bloodwork done during and after cycles would know that. these chumps are talking out their ass.

that being said, oral only cycles are bs dude. why dont you try methyltestosterone . thats where its at.

[idoitbecauseiloveit]

To help my liver I take milk thistle tablets daily, drink loads of water and I don't drink alcohol. I have read up quite a bit and I know obviously its not the safest route.

I'm serious when I ask about help. What would your advice be?

[idoitbecauseiloveit]

meh. your liver wont get thrashed. it might, but those orals arent going to do much damage at moderate dosage. i mean, anyone who gets their bloodwork done during and after cycles would know that. these chumps are talking out their ass.

that being said, oral only cycles are bs dude. why dont you try methyltestosterone. thats where its at.

Thanks for your response JiggaMan.

Thats another way I've tried to stay away from liver damage. I don't use in big dosages.

However if I'm almost completely wasting my time, and there are much riskier health problems, then I may have to do something to begin a course of injectable steroids . Maybe have someone do it for me.

Can you tell me why the results are so much better with injectables compared to orals? This may seem like a very basic question, but I can't find an answer anywhere.

[JiGGaMaN]

Thanks for your response JiggaMan.

Thats another way I've tried to stay away from liver damage. I don't use in big dosages.

However if I'm almost completely wasting my time, and there are much riskier health problems, then I may have to do something to begin a course of injectable steroids . Maybe have someone do it for me.

Can you tell me why the results are so much better with injectables compared to orals? This may seem like a very basic question, but I can't find an answer anywhere.

dont know. science has really shafted us with a lack of info about steroids. but its something thats so very obvious once you are able to compare the two that you wouldnt even question it.

[idoitbecauseiloveit]

dont know. science has really shafted us with a lack of info about steroids. but its something thats so very obvious once you are able to compare the two that you wouldnt even question it.

OK thanks. given my size, weight and BF% above, can you tell me what would be a good first cycle to move towards building lean muscle mass with a minimum BF% as possible?

[AdamGH]

OK thanks. given my size, weight and BF% above,

where above is that? i see no stats listed you say you mentioned.

[DEE151]

I'm 25 and I've been weight training since 16. I started taking anabol tablets and later androlic around 20 years old. Last year for the first time I took anavar and also proviron and the results I've had are good. I've never injected because I have a phobia of needles. I'm sure many of you will say "man up" or "just get through it" but I've tried many different ways to get through it myself. I just need to know how I can achieve the best results from orals alone.

I finished an 8 weeks cycle 3 weeks ago of the following.

Anabol x 50mg per day
Anavar x 25mg per day
Proviron x 50mg per day

I train every day weights, 3 times a week I train weights twice. Each session is no longer than an hour. I train each muscle group every 72 hours and I do cardio 3 times per week for 30 minutes.

I want to achieve a more muscular physique, and 5%/6% body fat.

What would be a great oral cycle to do to help with this? I'm currently living in Thailand so can easily get hold of any oral easily.

since you live in thailand you can get ahold of injectable steroids to easily.
if you want to put size on thats the way to go.

[idoitbecauseiloveit]

where above is that? i see no stats listed you say you mentioned.

Sorry you're right fella, listed them on a different post.

bF% = 8
Age - 25
Weight = 170lbs/ 77kg
Height = 5'10"

I would be very grateful if you had any suggestions for a good first cycle.

[c-Z]

Sorry you're right fella, listed them on a different post.

bF% = 8
Age - 25
Weight = 170lbs/ 77kg
Height = 5'10"

I would be very grateful if you had any suggestions for a good first cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

Read the stickies they are there for reasons.

[DenDestroys]

8 weeks is too long for an oral-only cycle, imo. Orals may blow you up quicker, but given that you can only be on them for 3-6 weeks doesn't really allow you to adjust and cement those gains as easily. Whereas, you can be on injectables and have more slow and steady gains that are likely to stick around longer.

What other oral cycles have you ran? How long do you break in between these cycles?