Question about Clen.....want some feedback

[mrnotducks]

Whats up guys...

So I am at 18% bf..and would like to get down to 12%

I was wondering if clen could help me do that......

Also I have my diet in check and workout 4X a weeks (Weights) and 4 cardio exercises throughtout the week.....

So what do you guys think about clen....could this help me...

I want to get down to 12 and then wait and prepare for a 12 week cycle of test

[CaliPhotog]

It could help you out, yes. However, if your diet was really in check you would be able to get down to 12% pretty easily without the clen. What are your stats? Can you list your diet/macros?

[mrnotducks]

Ok here are my stats

Age - 25
Height - 5' 7.5"
Weight - 162
Lifting Experience - 3 years

Ok here is my diet

1st meal Calories....Fats....Carbs.....Protein

half a cup of oatmeal 117 3.1 16.3 6.1
7 eggs (5 whites/2 yokes) 139 9.4 2.9 30.5
1 bannna (In oatmeal) 105 0.4 27.0 1.3

2nd meal

1 cup of brown Rice 218 1.6 45.8 4.5
1 peice of Salmon 236 7.3 0.0 39.9

Workout
Pre-protein shake
Post-Protein Shake 270 0.5 0.0 60.0

Meal 3

1 cup of Whole Wheat Pasta 173 0.8 36.9 7.4
1/2 cup of sauce 181 5.8 27.6 4.8
1 can of tuna 66 0.5 0.0 14.5

Meal 4
1 slice of wheat bread 158 2.1 26.4 8.3
6 oz Meat loaf 347 20.6 11.0 27.5
1/2 green beans 60 3.8 6.2 1.6

Totals 2,161 56.0 200.1 206.3


Ok here it is

My workout is 4 days a week a split on wednesday and weekends off (1.20 mins) then cardio
cardio 45 mins post workout

My BMR = 1642.46
My TDEE = 2627

[CaliPhotog]

DUDE!! So sorry! I forgot to subscribe to this thread and forgot that I asked you for the info. Let me take a look and I will get back to you in a few. Sorry!

[CaliPhotog]

How long have you been following this diet? What has it done for you so far and have you modified it at all along the way (if so how)?

Keep in mind that the advice I am giving you is my own opinion based off of my personal results and good only while trying to cut/loose fat. I use something different when trying to bulk.

Okay here are a few things to start with. You should be getting around 240g-300g of protein and you are only getting around 200g. This will allow you to reach your calorie demands, but allow you to have less carbs and fat. That means that if you have 5 meals a day you need to get about 48g-60g of protein per meal. The only time you should have carbs (other than greens) is first thing in the morning and post-workout. Fat and carbs are used for energy and only as needed.

Meal #1 -Eliminate the banana and add egg whites till you reach your protein goal for this meal.

Meal #2 - Eliminate the brown rice, no need for the carbs here. The carbs from meal #1 are still working and will provide you with enough for your workout coming up. Add in some green veggies to help fill you up and give you something good to go with the Salmon.

Eliminate the pre-workout shake. No need and it is always better to get your calories from whole foods.

Post workout shake -- either eliminate this and replace with a whole food meal high in carbs and protein or make a shake, but try to get your recommended amount of protein and double that amount of carbs. (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin) So if you are shooting for 50g protein go for 100g carbs with the ratio above. Don't be scared of carbs here right after your workout.

Meal #3 - You need to meet your protein goal again in this meal so you need allot more. Carbs should come only from green veggies here and add only enough fat to meet your calorie demands and give you enough energy to get through the rest of the day.

Meal #4 - Eliminate the slice of wheat bread, exchange the meatloaf for some steak and the green beans are good, but should not be the canned ones.

If at the end of the day you have not met your calorie/protein needs then you can have some non-fat cottage cheese before bed. If you just need a little amount than the cottage cheese alone will be good. If you need more you can add in a little natural peanut butter and a little cassien protein powder.


This should get you started and help you lower your bf. You will have to evaluate how your body reacts and make adjustments as needed. Once you get ripped off this you can consider using your clen to get you shredded. I can help you out with that dose once you get this accomplished, but don't sell your self short. You can do this!!!!

Let me know if you have any questions. cali

[dec11]

you can do it without easily, ive used clen alot of times and it aint the wonder drug it was made out to be and in my opinion its a bit of a health risk on the heart

[CrazyHorse13]

How long have you been following this diet? What has it done for you so far and have you modified it at all along the way (if so how)?

Keep in mind that the advice I am giving you is my own opinion based off of my personal results and good only while trying to cut/loose fat. I use something different when trying to bulk.

Okay here are a few things to start with. You should be getting around 240g-300g of protein and you are only getting around 200g. This will allow you to reach your calorie demands, but allow you to have less carbs and fat. That means that if you have 5 meals a day you need to get about 48g-60g of protein per meal. The only time you should have carbs (other than greens) is first thing in the morning and post-workout. Fat and carbs are used for energy and only as needed.

Meal #1 -Eliminate the banana and add egg whites till you reach your protein goal for this meal.

Meal #2 - Eliminate the brown rice, no need for the carbs here. The carbs from meal #1 are still working and will provide you with enough for your workout coming up. Add in some green veggies to help fill you up and give you something good to go with the Salmon.

Eliminate the pre-workout shake. No need and it is always better to get your calories from whole foods.

Post workout shake -- either eliminate this and replace with a whole food meal high in carbs and protein or make a shake, but try to get your recommended amount of protein and double that amount of carbs. (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin) So if you are shooting for 50g protein go for 100g carbs with the ratio above. Don't be scared of carbs here right after your workout.

Meal #3 - You need to meet your protein goal again in this meal so you need allot more. Carbs should come only from green veggies here and add only enough fat to meet your calorie demands and give you enough energy to get through the rest of the day.

Meal #4 - Eliminate the slice of wheat bread, exchange the meatloaf for some steak and the green beans are good, but should not be the canned ones.

If at the end of the day you have not met your calorie/protein needs then you can have some non-fat cottage cheese before bed. If you just need a little amount than the cottage cheese alone will be good. If you need more you can add in a little natural peanut butter and a little cassien protein powder.


This should get you started and help you lower your bf. You will have to evaluate how your body reacts and make adjustments as needed. Once you get ripped off this you can consider using your clen to get you shredded. I can help you out with that dose once you get this accomplished, but don't sell your self short. You can do this!!!!

Let me know if you have any questions. cali

Its no big deal..thanks though.....OK I will tryout the changes...I stick to it pretty good....but like with the meat loaf...I cant always make my wife eat everything I am...lol

But usually just chicken, salmon and hamburgers (Lean)

I have been following this for 5 weeks.....I am kinda staying the same weight but I do think I am gaining muscle and loosing fat...I wish I could just shred and then bulk...but I am sure it doesn't work like that..lol......Once I get down to about 14% bf...Im gonna run a Test E cycle....500 for 12 weeks...maybe some d-bol...who knows...that wont be a while...so we will see....thanks though

[peachfuzz]

you can do it without easily, ive used clen alot of times and it aint the wonder drug it was made out to be and in my opinion its a bit of a health risk on the heart

i would tend to agree

[Bio-Active]

you can do it without easily, ive used clen alot of times and it aint the wonder drug it was made out to be and in my opinion its a bit of a health risk on the heart

/\ /\ I agree as well nutrition is everything!

[CaliPhotog]

CrazyHorse... Just wondering, what the heck happened with the name change? haha I couldn't figure it out. Anyway, you will do great if you follow these guidelines for a bit. 5 weeks is nothing, and if you are seeing results with that then you are gonna notice even more with the new stuff. Hope it goes well for you. ...and I will say this with confidence, "Once you get to the point where you start using clen, you will be really underwhelmed with the results." Personally I do better on an ECA stack than I do on clen. Goodluck

[CrazyHorse13]

Thanks....I really appreciate all your help.....yeah my first name was..when I did not know anything at all...lol (Still dont)...i just had so many stupid threads....but this name is permanent......lol

I was thinking about a ECA stack.....

So here is a good question....what kind of cycle should I run.....

Lets say I get to 14 or 13% before I decide to cycle....what can I run and keep alot of the body fat off......

Something like....test E and Winstrol.....