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    25mg twice a day is fairly strong.

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    You really think you're going to be about to grabble & train when shooting suspension?

    That stuff hurt me the most out of anything I've ever injected. Prop-pain x 10...

    Anyways, pretty high dosage there.. 100mg is quite a bit for a first cycle. May want to consider reducing it. PCT should involve clomid & nolvadex. Might want to get some arimidex (AI) on hand as well.

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    if their testing you for steroids that means that its not legal in your sport so that means the guy your fighting is probably not on them so that means you are CHEATING if you cant fight without juice maybe mma is not for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    if their testing you for steroids that means that its not legal in your sport so that means the guy your fighting is probably not on them so that means you are CHEATING if you cant fight without juice maybe mma is not for you
    win by all means! cheat to win! its a ****in war in da cage!!! dont matter!! a win is a win!! and since theres money in it hell yea! im goin to cheat to provide for mine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    if their testing you for steroids that means that its not legal in your sport so that means the guy your fighting is probably not on them so that means you are CHEATING if you cant fight without juice maybe mma is not for you
    LMFAO! No juice in the MMA! Whata a fvckin joke man. Go preach somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiscypher View Post
    LMFAO! No juice in the MMA! Whata a fvckin joke man. Go preach somewhere else.


    ... well he does speak the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post


    ... well he does speak the truth
    lol do u realize almost all mma fighters are probably juicing, and if he says juice is cheatin, what about altitude chambers, drawin of your blood and having it put back in to have more t-cells which enables you to fight a lot longer, which is all cheating if u wanna call it all out! SUPER

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiscypher View Post
    LMFAO! No juice in the MMA! Whata a fvckin joke man. Go preach somewhere else.
    dont get all mad cause your a pvssy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SayIWont21 View Post
    lol do u realize almost all mma fighters are probably juicing, and if he says juice is cheatin, what about altitude chambers, drawin of your blood and having it put back in to have more t-cells which enables you to fight a lot longer, which is all cheating if u wanna call it all out! SUPER
    maybe most of the bootleg mma fighters do.you think silva does or st.peirre the ones that do are the ones that never last

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    dont get all mad cause your a pvssy
    I'm not going to get into who's the real ***** here, I think everyone knows its you. the person who started this thread asked a legit question and you dragged your gay little soap box out and started to preach, So please in the future keep it to yourself. These forums are for people to learn and educate themselves on steroids, not to preach right and wrong. And by the way you will get no more responses from me becaus losers like you who sit behind their moniters and call others pussies are just that: pussies, and your simply not worth it.

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    ok advice dont want man boobs you need clomid and nolva and they test for that to

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    Halotestin is supposed to give you tons of aggression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel405 View Post
    Halotestin is supposed to give you tons of aggression.

    You know man I have always thought that Halo would be fantastic for fighters with the great strength gains minimal weight gain increased aggression and increased red blood cell count but its just a theory of mine cause I never hear anyone that is running it for fighting I wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    if their testing you for steroids that means that its not legal in your sport so that means the guy your fighting is probably not on them so that means you are CHEATING if you cant fight without juice maybe mma is not for you

    This must be the funniest thing I've ever heard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    maybe most of the bootleg mma fighters do.you think silva does or st.peirre the ones that do are the ones that never last
    lol yea dude whck out what happen to Sean Sherk! that was a top MMA FIGHTER THAT GOT BUSTED WITH DECA!!! DUH!!! COME ON NOW!!! be a lil smarter than that, just cause sherk got busted with a substance that stays in your system the longest dont mean other fighters are takin shit thats out of there system quick! whats next are you goin to say that bodybuilder dont take steroids too!! hahaha hahaha

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    why o you want to get angry. you have to use technique when you get angry you don't think straight. well i don't anyways.

    awesome sport though. i do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    if their testing you for steroids that means that its not legal in your sport so that means the guy your fighting is probably not on them so that means you are CHEATING if you cant fight without juice maybe mma is not for you
    "Probably". Well what if he is on them and you get your ass beat because you can't keep up with them? Not me man, not this sport, bring everything you got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    maybe most of the bootleg mma fighters do.you think silva does or st.peirre the ones that do are the ones that never last
    No GSP doesn't do AS, at least he hasn't been caught, but he's the postard child for GH and that's also illegal but they can't test for it. For the record the worlds greatest athletes have used sports enhancing drugs to break records and they work, no illusions, so why not? Bruce Lee is the greatest fighter of all time and he used steroids to peak. There's no disgrace in using them it's just a game of who knows their shit best and who doesn't get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    if their testing you for steroids that means that its not legal in your sport so that means the guy your fighting is probably not on them so that means you are CHEATING if you cant fight without juice maybe mma is not for you
    LMFAO!.. Wow ur very intellectual.

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    I've fought in the ring 3 times (Thai boxing), and all the best fighters I've known have said it's all about being cool, calm and collected. They've told me that "losing your head" is a bad thing.

    By the way, don't mistake aggression for rage. Aggression is about having the resolve and the intent to f*** somebody up, but you can do so in a patient, clinical manner. In my very first fight, I had all the aggression in the world, I attacked every three seconds. But I learned that that didn't really work for me. By my third fight, I was circling my opponent more and picking the right time to strike, but by Christ I was aggressive when I chose to kick off.

    Rage is where you lose control over yourself, you don't wait for the right time to strike, you just dive right in. It's not a good thing in fighting.

    I don't think any "aggression-inducing" compounds are gonna make you a better fighter. If anything, you'd want a drug that makes you more "clinical". Think Hannibal Lecter sort of attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiscypher View Post
    LMFAO! No juice in the MMA! Whata a fvckin joke man. Go preach somewhere else.


    You took the words right out of my mouth.

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    "if your not cheating, you're not trying hard enough"

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    Quote Originally Posted by james21 View Post
    "if your not cheating, you're not trying hard enough"
    That's the quote of the year bro. Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almond View Post
    I've fought in the ring 3 times (Thai boxing), and all the best fighters I've known have said it's all about being cool, calm and collected. They've told me that "losing your head" is a bad thing.

    By the way, don't mistake aggression for rage. Aggression is about having the resolve and the intent to f*** somebody up, but you can do so in a patient, clinical manner. In my very first fight, I had all the aggression in the world, I attacked every three seconds. But I learned that that didn't really work for me. By my third fight, I was circling my opponent more and picking the right time to strike, but by Christ I was aggressive when I chose to kick off.

    Rage is where you lose control over yourself, you don't wait for the right time to strike, you just dive right in. It's not a good thing in fighting.

    I don't think any "aggression-inducing" compounds are gonna make you a better fighter. If anything, you'd want a drug that makes you more "clinical". Think Hannibal Lecter sort of attitude.

    Think Fedor. Watch his clips if you haven't already. That's composure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yucon92 View Post
    if their testing you for steroids that means that its not legal in your sport so that means the guy your fighting is probably not on them so that means you are CHEATING if you cant fight without juice maybe mma is not for you
    Hahahha Whatever! That's all I gotta say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by .EA. View Post

    This must be the funniest thing I've ever heard!
    I don't say the funniest but almost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almond View Post
    I've fought in the ring 3 times (Thai boxing), and all the best fighters I've known have said it's all about being cool, calm and collected. They've told me that "losing your head" is a bad thing.

    By the way, don't mistake aggression for rage. Aggression is about having the resolve and the intent to f*** somebody up, but you can do so in a patient, clinical manner. In my very first fight, I had all the aggression in the world, I attacked every three seconds. But I learned that that didn't really work for me. By my third fight, I was circling my opponent more and picking the right time to strike, but by Christ I was aggressive when I chose to kick off.

    Rage is where you lose control over yourself, you don't wait for the right time to strike, you just dive right in. It's not a good thing in fighting.

    I don't think any "aggression-inducing" compounds are gonna make you a better fighter. If anything, you'd want a drug that makes you more "clinical". Think Hannibal Lecter sort of attitude.
    You come to my point.
    Thats' why the greatest fighter ever is not the amazing Bruce Lee but the humble and frail Mr. Helio Gracie who had in is head the final move!

    MMA fighters who still think about strength only, forgetting the techniques, are destined to fail. But after all, it is harder to become a BJJ black belt than learning thai box and kick one's ass with test or tren or both of them running into the blood strem, isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    You come to my point.
    Thats' why the greatest fighter ever is not the amazing Bruce Lee but the humble and frail Mr. Helio Gracie who had in is head the final move!

    MMA fighters who still think about strength only, forgetting the techniques, are destined to fail. But after all, it is harder to become a BJJ black belt than learning thai box and kick one's ass with test or tren or both of them running into the blood strem, isn't it.
    Strength and technique as well as conditioning all play their part in a well balanced, developed fighter. Matter of opinion, but Helio would have hit the wall before he even had a thought about what Bruce Lee was going to do, let alone see it. I've trained in both Muay Thai and BJJ and the truth is BJJ days gave me a day to stretch more and let my bruises heal. With a wrestling back ground most ground game is pretty easily neutralized and brought back to a striking match or stand up. I find people have a hard time submitting someone that's punching them in the face. Steroids might help someone prepare for a fight but extra water retention IN a fight is going to slow you down, not to mention everybody knows what Tren does to your cardio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    You come to my point.
    Thats' why the greatest fighter ever is not the amazing Bruce Lee but the humble and frail Mr. Helio Gracie who had in is head the final move!

    MMA fighters who still think about strength only, forgetting the techniques, are destined to fail. But after all, it is harder to become a BJJ black belt than learning thai box and kick one's ass with test or tren or both of them running into the blood strem, isn't it.
    man i really miss training - i used to train BJJ on test/tren LMAO..... it was friggin hard. If you think sweating with a GI on is bad...... or sweating on tren is bad..... try em both together LOL! My GI was dripping wet every friggin night. I used to train 5 days a week in BJJ and 3 days a week in Muoy Thai.....

    ~Haz~

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    You come to my point.
    Thats' why the greatest fighter ever is not the amazing Bruce Lee but the humble and frail Mr. Helio Gracie who had in is head the final move!

    MMA fighters who still think about strength only, forgetting the techniques, are destined to fail. But after all, it is harder to become a BJJ black belt than learning thai box and kick one's ass with test or tren or both of them running into the blood strem, isn't it.

    You can't compare Bruce Lee to Gracie. You can't really compare Bruce Lee to anybody really. He has his own level.

    MMA exists today because of Bruce Lee. He has redefined a lot of things. Even boxing.

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    Im not even gonna quote all the shit I read but I do have several things to say in response to some ignorant things goin on in this thread:

    1. No AAS in MMA??? If you believe that then you my son are what we call a dumbass.

    2. Aggression is great in a fight. Yeah it can leave openings sometimes but many great fighters were fueled by aggression. Wanderlei Silva is a great example of this as he was one of the most aggressive fighters there was and had a huge win streak in pride and was probably the most feared man in MMA at the period of time. Note most of his losses came after he seemed to lose that no fear, all or nothing attitude.

    3. Bruce Lee would have straight up murdered Helio Gracie

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH View Post
    Strength and technique as well as conditioning all play their part in a well balanced, developed fighter. Matter of opinion, but Helio would have hit the wall before he even had a thought about what Bruce Lee was going to do, let alone see it. I've trained in both Muay Thai and BJJ and the truth is BJJ days gave me a day to stretch more and let my bruises heal. With a wrestling back ground most ground game is pretty easily neutralized and brought back to a striking match or stand up. I find people have a hard time submitting someone that's punching them in the face. Steroids might help someone prepare for a fight but extra water retention IN a fight is going to slow you down, not to mention everybody knows what Tren does to your cardio.
    Regarding Helio/Lee I see and respect your opinion but I do disagree.

    Regarding the rest you said remember that I spoke about BJJ black belts.
    Do you really think or have experienced such an easy way to neutralize a black belt?

    Royce Gracie... was even fighting with a kimono and till he decided to quit he never lost and won more 200 matches consecutively among BJJ and MMA.
    These are facts and should not be ignored!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    man i really miss training - i used to train BJJ on test/tren LMAO..... it was friggin hard. If you think sweating with a GI on is bad...... or sweating on tren is bad..... try em both together LOL! My GI was dripping wet every friggin night. I used to train 5 days a week in BJJ and 3 days a week in Muoy Thai.....

    ~Haz~
    What's you BJJ color belt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    What's you BJJ color belt?
    i was only getting promoted to blue lol but i used to roll with blue's and purples. I was under Renzo Gracie..... Ended up getting injured in a knee bar. Came back to it - competed in a tournament and then quit because I had a lot going on in my life. Wish I would have stuck with it to accept my blue belt but what are yah gunna do..... water under the bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog-Slime View Post
    Im not even gonna quote all the shit I read but I do have several things to say in response to some ignorant things goin on in this thread:

    1. No AAS in MMA??? If you believe that then you my son are what we call a dumbass.
    Agree

    2. Aggression is great in a fight. Yeah it can leave openings sometimes but many great fighters were fueled by aggression. Wanderlei Silva is a great example of this as he was one of the most aggressive fighters there was and had a huge win streak in pride and was probably the most feared man in MMA at the period of time. Note most of his losses came after he seemed to lose that no fear, all or nothing attitude.
    Aggression is great but it is not all and can be squeezed by calmness (Lee before Gracie taught us this fact). Silva is a black belt of bjj for your records.

    3. Bruce Lee would have straight up murdered Helio Gracie
    I guess we'll never know unfortunately but to be able to judge you should be practising at high level at least (not mentionig being a black belt) either BJJ or KungFu Wuchu/Shaolin. Otherwise, you cannot be reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    i was only getting promoted to blue lol but i used to roll with blue's and purples. I was under Renzo Gracie..... Ended up getting injured in a knee bar. Came back to it - competed in a tournament and then quit because I had a lot going on in my life. Wish I would have stuck with it to accept my blue belt but what are yah gunna do..... water under the bridge.

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    well i guess everyone on here thinks their a mma fighter and knows everything about mma yall make it sound like they all do steroids and that is retarted cause they dont,most of them dont not in the ufc anyways maybe some of or all of underground sh*t is you dont need steroids to be a fighter what about bj penn destroying sean sherk? you think hes on steroids/haha

    im not saying theres any thing wrong with steroids,i love them but when there are guys that devote their life to the sport and train and diet their ass's off and play by the rules of the sport explain how thats fair

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    MMA exists today because of Bruce Lee. He has redefined a lot of things. Even boxing.
    Yes he did.

    1. No AAS in MMA??? If you believe that then you my son are what we call a dumbass.
    Steroids are all over MMA.

    3. Bruce Lee would have straight up murdered Helio Gracie
    Why because he looked good on TV and could kick and make funny sounds?

    I find people have a hard time submitting someone that's punching them in the face.
    Anytime you care to put that to the test let me know. But I understand what you are saying.

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