Need Educated Information

[Chadway]

im 27, 6'1" 235 lbs, looking into the whole tren thing, anyone have any suggestions on it? im looking at just takin it, nothing else til my PCT

[roserose]

If you do that your dick won't work for the entire duration of the cycle and post cycle and maybe longer.

[Matt]

What are your goals and Bf%??

[Chadway]

im not sure what my % is right now, not good though, i mean i work out but am stocky as is, i want to solidify and lean out as well, what should i take with it then?>

[JiGGaMaN]

tren is the strongest stuff out there. im pretty well experienced and wouldnt touch it. if you are willing to risk the sides, i suggest reading more and really thinking hard about it. you could regret it a lot.

[Matt]

You need to get your bf% down to about 14% then id look at a test only cycle to begin with. Test e/c, 12 weeks at 400mgs a week.

With a solid diet and training program you gains will be awesome...

[C-MaN]

^^^^ agreed. Tren is nick named " Devils Brew" for a reason bud. Dont mess with it, dont even think about thinking about messing with it ! ! ! ! !! ! ! ! ! !

[Chadway]

ok, im getting 2 sides now, 1 says do, with some other stuff, one says dont lol, what to do what to do......

[Matt]

Nobody here says do it...

[Dukkit]

dont. you have no clue what your messin with. tren isntt for beginners. def shouldnt be used without test. and better used at a lower bodyfat.

so all signs point to..... NO

[Chadway]

im not a beginner, ive been lifting for sometime now, just first tiem using it if i decide to, not like ive never been in gym guys, just not completely leaned out is what im getting at

[ninesecz]

This is as straight forward about tren as i can get.... The stuff works great... Would i run it with nothing else ( Already tried that once.. NO Freakin Way! Are the sides bad Depends who you are.. I got really aggressive and snapped very easily.. Also would wake up every night and If I watered down my sheets with a hose I do not think they would have been any wetter! Started making sure I had a 2nd set ready b4 bed and laid on a sleeping bag and plastic! Other than that tren is great! If you have not tried tren a to see what your sides would be like you really need to do that 1st! I would say you have to run it with test though! You are asking for a lifetime of TRT if you dont ( I am now on a lifetime of TRT) Just be really careful as to what your decisions are! Tren is nothing to be taken lightly!

[Chadway]

Trt?

[feeldapump89]

im not a beginner, ive been lifting for sometime now, just first tiem using it if i decide to, not like ive never been in gym guys, just not completely leaned out is what im getting at

We hope your not a beginner at lifting thats a given. What they are referring to is your knowledge and experience towards steroids which in that case yes you are a beginner.

[roserose]

Its really not a good 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd cycle drug. You can grow and increase strength a lot safer. Like 400mg of test cyp. for 12 weeks.

[Chadway]

oh ok, yes that makes more sense, i have a few associates who are very experienced with alll of it, just trying to get different aspects on it

[feeldapump89]

Trt?

Testosterone Replacement Therapy. In which you have to constantly inject a low dose of Test cause your body cant produce it anymore.

[Chadway]

oh ok, thanks for the info pump!

[feeldapump89]

oh ok, thanks for the info pump!

No problem dude. Like everyone is saying stick to a test based cycle for your first 1-2 cycles and you will be pleased. No need to introduce Tren yet, dont let your friends talk you into something your not ready for. Stick to the basics Test E or C and 500mgs per week for 10-12 weeks and you will be golden. Good luck!

[Chadway]

ok, where do you suggest i get it? any suggestions man

[Chadway]

my guy says test with tren doesnt matter, still going to have to take a PCT after either way, and what you think about 2 weeks on tren, 3 off, so body doesnt completely shut down from a longer cycle, maybe not as much gains as a longer one, but then not worrying about havin to use a PCT?

[feeldapump89]

my guy says test with tren doesnt matter, still going to have to take a PCT after either way, and what you think about 2 weeks on tren, 3 off, so body doesnt completely shut down from a longer cycle, maybe not as much gains as a longer one, but then not worrying about havin to use a PCT?

Your doing what i said not to do, dont take the advice of your guy. Stick with test only for 10-12 weeks. Running tren for 2 weeks is a waste of time and money. And either way you are shutting down test production and have to run PCT.

[Chadway]

yeah, i dont know about the test situation, id rather go all or none, he been doin it a long time and is ok with it, im gonna prob try it on a half dose to see what happens and go from there, thanks for your help everyone!