Tren-E/Test E or Test E/Mast E.

[Ljavy17]

I am about to order my cycle.
I want to do a cutting cycle.

Stats:
5.4" tall.
155lbs
10 to 12percent BF.

-Will I see bloat if I do like 300mg of test E with 300mg of Tren?
-Would it be better to switch them all to Tren ace and test prop for less water retention.
-For this cycle I want to get hard and lose body fat.
--On the other hand I would do about 350mg and 400mgs of Mast E. ( the mast would probably take care of the bloat and act as an antiestrogen and deal with the low dose test)
Questions:
*What would be the best choice?
*If I decide to do the test and tren would I still need an AI even with the low dose test?

[GetTheRage]

I would go with the test and tren.
If you have never used tren I would go for the short esters.
I would have arimidex and maybe caber on hand

[Ljavy17]

is that a good dose though?
Maybe even lower the dose of test to 250mgs a week and the tren keep it at 300mgs?

[marcus300]

Just do Test only with a good diet and cardio program, that will achieve your goals no need to use something as powerful as tren yet IMHO.

[BG]

I agree no need for tren yet. I would also recommend you work on getting your diet dialed in before any cycle. This affects gains and fat loss tremediously.

[Ljavy17]

I have done test/masteron with winny before and liked the results.

Here is my last cycle.
Here are the results.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...transformation
My last cycle was Test/Mast/Winny/T3.

I guess I will do another Test E and Mast cycle and work on the diet and cardio.
ALso what dose of T3 to burn fat? 75mcgs or 100mcg? I am currently taking 100mcgs but I want to gain muscle and was thinking about lowering it to 75mcgs.

[Ljavy17]

You guys talked me out of the tren.

[marcus300]

You guys talked me out of the tren.

Thats good now send it to me, i will look after it for you.

[Ljavy17]

Just Ordered.
6000Mgs of Test E.
5000mgs of Mast E.
1000 IU of HCG.
Nolvadex.
Thats it.

[hornet_9]

Very good cutting cycle is combination from win + tren. Win ED and tren A EOD

[BG]

Very good cutting cycle is combination from win + tren. Win ED and tren A EOD

Almost one of the most heptatoxic combos you could come up with.

[Papa Smurf]

If you want to try out a 19 nor compound, why not try NPP or deca. With the right diet you can still cut, no problem

My next cycle this fall will be Test/NPP/Mast. Still not ready for that Tren bear yet. To much BS going on in my life.


Good luck with your cycle!


Papa

[hornet_9]

Almost one of the most heptatoxic combos you could come up with.

heptatoxic is not big, but in last this cycle I cuting all water and ahve many cramp and must add 15 mg metan. But combination is very good for relief cycle

[Ljavy17]

I just got 50 dollars in store credit and worked it out so I have enough gear to do about 20 weeks.
Would it be too harsh to do a 20 week cycle? Or just cut it at 12? I know the test stops giving you gains at 12 to 16 weeks but is this also true for the masteron?

[Phate]

heptatoxic is not big, but in last this cycle I cuting all water and ahve many cramp and must add 15 mg metan. But combination is very good for relief cycle

What?!! liver toxicity isn't a big deal, you're kidding right?

[Ljavy17]

Here goes todays diet, telll me what you guys think.
BF 1 scoop of Protein half cup of oatmeal. 30P 35C 6F
Morning Snack 6 egg whites. 35P 10C 5F
Lunch: Salad with Stake. 50P 10C 8F
Snack 1 scoop of protein with some fiber one. 25P 5C 5F
Snack 1 Protein Bar. 40P 8C 10F
DInner Big stake (With Broccolli) 55P 10C 10F

240P 80C 45F.

[hornet_9]

What?!! liver toxicity isn't a big deal, you're kidding right?

My english is very bad and you don't understand me . In this combination have heptatoxic but this heptatoxic is not very hight . And this cycle is not very strong for big heptatoxic