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    Var and Prop short cycle help

    Hiya guys,
    Not been on here for along while. Fancying a really short cycle of anavar and prop to give me a little boost. I did two cycles about 4 years ago of test enth and test enth + d-bol. At this time I did alot of research (6 months or so) but my memorys a little rusty as its been so long.
    I've been in the gym since I was 19, worked my way upto 200-205lb at 5'10''. Realised soon after that I didn't like the bulky look so since I've trained naturaly and vastly altered my diet. I'm now 26, 174lb (at 5'10''), much more shapely and cut then I was at my biggest. Still benching 300lb for 4 as my final set though (just recently achieved this).

    I wasn't going to do any more juice but I fancy a really short boost for some more strength and lean mass. My two sources now have access to anavar which they previously didn't. This got me thinking about a quick cycle along with prop but I thought I'd put it to you guys first.

    I was thinking of just doing 2 weeks. 100mg of prop eod and whatever the regular dose of var is ed along side (50mg?). The PCT I did for my previous cycles of enth and enth + d-bol were just nolva and clomid for 4 weeks with tapering doses.

    One concern I do have is that back in 2007 I suffered abit of gyno in my left nip coming off the back of superdrol (of all drugs?! - whats that about!?). I did 3 weeks of nolva and clomid as PCT for the superdrol cycle and shortly after experienced gyno symptoms. I now have a very small lump behind my left nip which isnt noticeable but you can feel it easily. By the way, during and after my steroid cycles, I didn't experience the slightest sign of gyno. I ran nolva throughout as a precaution though.

    What do you think guys? Would like to hear your input and from anyone who's run a similar cycle. Also, I'm open to PCT suggestions and any adviseable precautions.

    Sorry for the weighty read, thanks for your time.

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    By the way, as well as the gains, one important reason I want to run prop is simply so I can use the anavar. I've always read that test is the foundation to all aas cycles. Some of my friends are running anavar alone. I have mentioned to them that idealy you need to run test along side it. I choose prop because I favour the properties and nature of gains over sus, enth and cyp. And I think the gains would suit the gains of anavar more so.
    After having alook around the board, I have noticed some people using t-bol with anavar? Wouldn't this result in "lack of test" side effects? or is this a "done" cycle?

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    I would suggest you go at least 4 to 6 weeks, with 4 being the minimum. Your dose is fine but since you are prone to gyno try some aromasin. It is very strong and should eliminate any problem. Adex should do the same but I have never used it and do not know.

    I would save the nolva for pct.

    My cycles are mostly Var/Prop with or without NPP. I think it is a very good cycle for lean gains and strength.

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    Thanks for your reply.
    I can get hold of some arimadex/l-dex. Would running var alone be any good? I would probably prefer to run the prop with it but I'm a little concerned about the gyno. Thing is, I'm not 100% convinced I am gyno prone - I used test enth and d-bol for 10 weeks and 4 weeks respectively (two heavily aromatizing steroids) and never had a problem. I did this twice but minus the d-bol the first time around. Superdrol doesn't even aromatize (nor is it a proper steroid) so I'm convinced it was some other complication?
    Just recently I've experienced some hair loss, my hair line is receeding. This was something I expected because my dad and his brother also have this. They still have plenty of hair, just a slightly receeded hair line. Would prop and/or var be a concern in this department?
    One of my sources says his var is in 50mg tabs, I'm a little suspecious of this. I've never seen 50mg tabs of var before. What do you think?
    Sorry for all the questions. I want to get everything cleared up before I make a start.

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    i wouldnt run anavar shorter than 6weeks

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    Really? is it too mild for a really short cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thai-lan View Post
    i wouldnt run anavar shorter than 6weeks
    yeah i agree 6 -8 weeks

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    yeah man anavar is pretty mild and you need to run it at high doses. i was thinking to run the same test p / var cycle ..

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    The doses are fine but the lenght of the cycle is way too short. As pointed above run them for 8 weeks. You should see some nice gains in strength and lean mass.

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    With prop you should have less gyno issues. I would start an ai/or serm about 2 -3 weeks in advance to make sure it was fully stabalized in my blood. The prop should be ran for 6 weeks and I would start the var at week 2 and run it at a higher dosage then you would have at 6 weeks, as I feel orals dont yeild any gains after 4 weeks.

    On a side note, sounds like your diet, supps and training need work, your pretty small no matter what for your height.

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