Dangerous????

[LBP311]

I was 165 when i started my cycle 4% bf. Ive been runing deca and test for 10 weeks. 400mg deca and 600mg of sust. And ran androl at the beginning of my cycle 50mg for 2 weeks. And 20 units of insulin a day for the first 3 weeks. Im 190lb 4%bf. My goal was to hit 205lb but i didnt. How bad would it be to up my dose of sust to 800mg for 5 more weeks. And keep my deca dose the same. And start back on the insulin for 3 more weeks. And then start my pct and run clen. With that. My pct is 100mg of clomid daily for 3 weeks. If you have advice please tell there always someone who knows a better way.

[Dukkit]

no

come off and do proper PCT. dont get greedy. thats when problems arise

and honestly? 4%?
i highly doubt your walking around day to day at 4%

even pros dont do that silly

stats... and pics are needed

[Hazard]

something doesn't sound right here.....

What are your stats..... and how long have you been lifting?

~Haz~

[thai-lan]

[redz]

I`m not buying the 25lbs of perfect muscle and remaining at 4%bf...... I doubt you are anywhere close to 4% bf.

[Dukkit]

not humanly possible or healthy to live at 4% bodyfat

you can get there and stay there for a few days sure. but thats it

[marcus300]

I was 165 when i started my cycle 4% bf. Ive been runing deca and test for 10 weeks. 400mg deca and 600mg of sust. And ran androl at the beginning of my cycle 50mg for 2 weeks. And 20 units of insulin a day for the first 3 weeks. Im 190lb 4%bf. My goal was to hit 205lb but i didnt. How bad would it be to up my dose of sust to 800mg for 5 more weeks. And keep my deca dose the same. And start back on the insulin for 3 more weeks. And then start my pct and run clen. With that. My pct is 100mg of clomid daily for 3 weeks. If you have advice please tell there always someone who knows a better way.

You have gained all that and kept the same BF!! 4% is competetion standard!

I wouldnt up the dose because you have done well but something doesnt ring true if i am honest.

[sigman roid]

Im definitley not buying the 4%bf

[Hazard]

Sounds like a reporter trying to get us to say "yeah go ahead and take more test.... up your insulin....."

Have fun writing the article

~Haz~

[redz]

Also why would this guy need to run clen at 4%?

[Hazard]

The OP has already asked this question..... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398590

Not just once either LOL..... a bunch of times.

To the OP..... if your goal is to fight someone in MMA that is in a heavier weightclass...... why not just enter that weightclass under weight? Randy couture held 2 belts..... i'm not saying your him..... but if you wanna fight this guys THAT bad..... just doit.

~Haz~

[j4ever41]

4%????

[thai-lan]

Im taking 600mg of sust and 600mg of deca a week and i just finished androl 50mg a day. Ive been on this cycle for 9 weeks and have gained 30 lbs. Im going to run the deca and test for about 5 more week. Would it be safe or has anyone heard of mixing in some clen right now to cut up or will it mess up the rest of my cycle. This is my first time with clenbuteral. ?????

you ran abombs and ur sitting on %4 bodyfat?

[TITANIUM]

no

come off and do proper PCT. dont get greedy. thats when problems arise

and honestly? 4%?
i highly doubt your walking around day to day at 4%

even pros dont do that silly

stats... and pics are needed

I read all of the posts here, and I agree that you need to come off NOW!

Your thread seems screwy, to be honest.

So I'm going to put aside the rest of the thread and advise you on the main concern.

PCT!!!!

[LBP311]

i wasnt at 4% when i was taking anadrol and insulin but when i got off i went right back to where i was, i checked it a week ago, unless im not doing something right but thats what it said. im just trying to get some advice because i would like to gain more.

[LBP311]

and i wasnt sure how long i needed to wait to get back on the insulin. or if anyone else has ran deca and test for 15 weeks? ive been working out for 5 years and have done 5 cycles within the five years but this is my first time with insulin and anadrol, and i want to get to 205 and keep my gains. i probably dont need the clen but i was told it would help me keep my gain while on my pct.

[TITANIUM]

and i wasnt sure how long i needed to wait to get back on the insulin. or if anyone else has ran deca and test for 15 weeks? ive been working out for 5 years and have done 5 cycles within the five years but this is my first time with insulin and anadrol, and i want to get to 205 and keep my gains. i probably dont need the clen but i was told it would help me keep my gain while on my pct.

Bro=start your pct!

Clomid
Tamo
HCG or a-dex.

[LBP311]

ok ive always just ran clomid would it be better to take something with that or is 100mg of clomid alone good?

[ty357]

totally agree. i would love to see a pic

[thai-lan]

clomid only?? well NO and do more research please all i can say is you need an agressive pct for that cycle

[LBP311]

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[LBP311]

i dont think i did that right on the picture

[LBP311]

[LBP311]

how do you put a picture on there

[LBP311]

Ok i put some pic of me on my profile some are before i started my cycle i will get some some better one for you, but thanks for all your advice im gonna go ahead and hit the pct. Just wondering though what kind of problems are cause from long cycles, cause my father has been on test for 8 yr. Its perscribe by the doc. Due to low test. And im only 23 and the last time i had my levels checked they were at 195. The docter said that was extremly low. So i just went ahead and started my recent cycle, but when i get off of it, will my pct make it come up past 195. Cause its hard to function at that level, i dont feel like doing anything when its that low.

[thai-lan]

how do you fight due to low test?? i thought it would have affected your agression

cant really see your abs in any of those pictures so cant tell what your bodyfat is

[redz]

You are not 4% bf....... not even at fight time.

[TITANIUM]

how do you put a picture on there

Go down to the manage attachments.
Click on that.

If your running windows, it will go into my pics.

Click on it, then upload it as a attachment.

The late , great T-MOS told me when I first started here as a newbie.

Good luck.

[The Deuce]

If you were in my WEIGHT CLASS I'd fight ya !! haha

Definitely NOT 4% bro, nope sorry, more like maybe 8-9.. maybe even 10%..

Now if those really are of you, and you are a fighter.. I wouldn't be using DECA for starters.. try using NPP.. what happens if you get a call from DANA WHITE to fight for the UFC 9months from now... GUESS WHO WON'T BE ABLE TO FIGHT !!! YOU !!! Deca takes a long time to clear your system, definitely not the premiere compound for a MMA!!


Stick with Test Prop/susp. NPP (Even that still takes a while to completely filter), winstrol, primo, anavar. Things like that... you don't want to screw your chances for fighting in the top of the top because you want to run idiotic cycles including DECA !!! Save that stuff for the BODYBUILDERS !! And people who DO NOT GET TESTED FOR THEIR SPORTS !!

[LBP311]

Thanks bro. That makes alot of sence, i love mma but ive havent faught in 6 month due to geting my teeth knocked out, so ive been training and doing alot of lifting, thats why i was doing a pretty heavy cycle and trying to bulk up to 205lb, because i know when its time i will have to cut my weight and i wanted to be at 185 but be solid muscle, and ripped because naturally i walk around at 165, but i want to change that and i know if i took a break and just trained with weights while healing i could put on solid muscle and be able to keep it. How much do you keep from using insulin? This was my first time using it and ive done my research on it, but i havent got much feed back on other people who have used it?

[The Deuce]

Insulin IS VERY DANGEROUS if not done exactly perfect.. DEADLY even.. 1 MISCALCULATION will and can KILL YOU.. That is why I won't be touching the stuff until I am monitored by a DOCTOR to do it... if I was you man..

FORGOT INSULIN FOR NOW !!

The benefits don't outweigh the risks... just use other things... you can make plenty of muscular gains without it.. do a test suspension/anadrol/Masteron stack...


BUT FIRST THINGS FIRST !!!


Cycle off dude...


Pct... then stay off for the amount of time you were on, then go back on.. Unless of course you are prescribed to TRT then technically you never have to come off.. but i can tell you aren't... so it's PCT time...

[LBP311]

Yeah your right the docter was gonna right a scrip for me but i didnt want to pay cause i already had some, the only reason i dont want to be on that stuff forever is because im young and i want to have kids soon and being that my test level was at 195 before i started im worried that it may not come back up when i get off of clomid. I messed up when i was about 20 and started using around 1000mg sust and 800mg deca a week for a good 12 weeks and never started a pct, i had no clue what i was doing then, i geuss my body never recovered from it because one year later my test was 195, im hoping this time around my pct will boast my natural levels up to normal, and they will stay that way, so i wont have any problems when im ready to have kids.

[Juturna]

Agree with Deuce.

Also - damn. If your 4% BF than I'm slightly below -1%.

[RANA]

He cant be 4% if he is looking to take clen after his cycle!

[kojak_x]

sounds to me if you don't even know what your body percentage is and are doing stuff like clen, insulin and a shit load of other shit. Do you know clen or even one wrong shot of insulin can kill you.

[roserose]

I'm currently running a 15 week cycle with test and deca. But my pct is more aggressive with 20000 ui of hcg. That said If it were me I'd run the deca for at least 12 weeks and the test at least 14.

[c-Z]

Your PCT is weak. Should add nolva bro.

[LBP311]

ok is my pct is weak what do you reccomend how much clomid and how much nolvadex

[ted666]

i ran a bombsat 50mg ed , test e at 750 mg ew, and deca at 600mg ew didnt gain any water weight at all through the whole 16 wks

[Dancer]

I was 165 when i started my cycle 4% bf. Ive been runing deca and test for 10 weeks. 400mg deca and 600mg of sust. And ran androl at the beginning of my cycle 50mg for 2 weeks. And 20 units of insulin a day for the first 3 weeks. Im 190lb 4%bf. My goal was to hit 205lb but i didnt. How bad would it be to up my dose of sust to 800mg for 5 more weeks. And keep my deca dose the same. And start back on the insulin for 3 more weeks. And then start my pct and run clen. With that. My pct is 100mg of clomid daily for 3 weeks. If you have advice please tell there always someone who knows a better way.

Let me just step back from the pissing match of "4% or not"

You are not going to gain 15 pounds of quality weight at the end of the cycle

Step back and get off.