hi
if u have one choice between these two whats ur choice?i personaly prefer primo.
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hi
if u have one choice between these two whats ur choice?i personaly prefer primo.
"Better Safe Than Sorry"
Another cryptic post.
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i know these two aas are weak & many bb dont like use them but i see some bb that when use primo get better result than bold!whats ur choice between these two?
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Bro, you seem to be posting questions that you should know the answers already.Originally Posted by dariush
Maybe just laying back and reading would help you with this.
As far a a another cryptic post, well whatever.
This site is a great resource.
Just take the time and read the stickies and gear profiles.
Most of your answers to your questions can be found there.
Titanium.
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I have never run either but I were to choose between I would go with primo personally.
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its not important that i know the answer or not!
i want to know which do u prefer?
i used tren with test e & winny in my last cycle.in my new cycle i dont want to use tren & i dont like to use deca!i want a steroid to combine with test for build pure muscle mass that shot once or twice a week not more.
i think pri or bold may help me.i want to know ur suggestion.
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BOLD DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR GAINS IN MUSCLE TISSUE !!!
Primo... IMO ... is the BEST AAS Out there if USED at the CORRECT dose.. for THE CORRECT amount of time... *minimum 700mgs EW for 14-16 weeks* That's my personal opinion of course... others will think differently...
But it is NOT THE COMPOUNDS THAT DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS IN YOUR CYCLE MAN...
It is your DIET !!!
You could do all the GEAR in the world and you still won't gain a THING if you do not know how to EAT !!
So go with the PRIMO if you can not handle the sides of a 19-nor.. but honestly .. do not take this the wrong way.. if you can't handle 19-nor's then maybe AAS aren't for you...
Steroids are not some magical cure all... YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DOING !!
You want to build MASS... Then those are the absolute BEST compounds to use...
JMHO...
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What? My first cycle was an EQ/Winstrol cycle and I gained 17lbs and dropped a waist size.
Why do you make a ridiculous statement like that?
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It's actually not a ridiculous statement... ASK ANY VET AROUND HERE !!! DO IT!! I DARE YA !!
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do the primo
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MARCUS300 !!! REED !!! Someone please back me up on this one to let this man know what I speaketh is the truth... THANKS BROS !!!
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LMAO in the words of either BG or PT..... It is better used to oil the gears on your bike.....
EQ was worthless for me...... only thing it did was increase my appetite and it does increase RBC..... the only good thing about it is it's rediculously cheap.....
I'd go with primo.....
~Haz~
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I don't give a damn what "your boys" say, nothing they can write will take away the gains that myself and others have made.
Your first statement was very ignorant.
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Don't like it? Don't use it.
But to imply that everyone responds the same to EQ and nobody will gain from it is also very ignorant.
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No one is saying it didn't work for you..... if it did.... thats fantastic. If someone asks me if they should use it..... I will more than likely say no because in my experience and in the experience of a lot of other guys here..... it hasn't.
~Haz~
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I know you didn't say that it didn't work for me, but you're implying it won't work for anybody and that it's useless, which is completely wrong.
For every person you can find that doesn't like it, you can find at least one person who does. Maybe you should rephrase your response next time to reflect that fact.
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mg per mg boldenone owns primobolan, not to mention primo is always dosed at 100mg/ml and you would need a ton of 10ml bottles. It's a great steroid it just ends up being expensive.Boldenone on the other hand is very cheap.
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They both are great AAS. PRIMO is great but dosages needed can be expensive. With EQ you get alot of bang for your buck. Depends on your budget I guess.
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Some people say EQ is totally useless while others say its the best steroid they ever used. Its user dependant IMO.
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LISTEN.. I am not about to get into a pissing match with you OVER EQUIPOISE !!
Point blank... "Your gains" I am willing to bet my life on it came from the fact when you used this compound NOT AT YOUR GENETIC LIMIT and the fact that you were on an AAS gave you the mental edge to EAT more.. which in turn whenever you up the intake of food you will gain weight.. not to mention you said you were using winstrol also.. which could equate for some of the gains you saw.. IN MY OPINION... WHICH I AM ENTITLED TO... The EQ didn't make you GAIN anything... YOU DID... Your HARD WORK.. YOUR DEDICATION... YOUR TRAINING... YOUR ROUTINE... and THE WINSTROL... Allowed you to gain 17lbs. during your cycle.. IT IS MY HONEST OPINION THE EQ DID NOTHING AND THAT YOU AS A HARD WORKING INDIVIDUAL IS THE THING THAT SHOULD BE THANKED FOR YOUR GAINS.. NOT THE EQ.
No it doesn't... PRIMO IS THE BEST AAS Ever created... the reason it is dosed so low is because it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get it to hold at any higher of a concentration..
Who says you need a ton of 10ml bottles?? I prefer the real deal... SCHERING AMPS... 1 per day for 16 weeks will yield you probably better results than DOUBLE THAT OF ANY EQ on the MARKET !!
It is NEWBIES that think that EQ is so GREAT !! They don't have the experience under their belts to know what to really expect.. and it's not their faults.. and I am not saying you are a newb bro.. I DONT KNOW YOU.. I can not make that determination.. but what i do know is that EQ is junk.. no one will ever tell me different... those who think it's GREAT !! All the more power to them.. seriously... IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET YOUR ASS MOTIVATED IN THE GYM AND DO WHAT YOU DO... GREAT !! IT'S JUST NOT FOR ME..
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I would personally rather test only over test/EQ..... I've used a multitude of different chemicals and out of everything i've used..... EQ is hands down the WORST. I havn't used primo yet..... hey deuce..... will the enanthate version hold at a higher ratio?LISTEN.. I am not about to get into a pissing match with you OVER EQUIPOISE !!
Point blank... "Your gains" I am willing to bet my life on it came from the fact when you used this compound NOT AT YOUR GENETIC LIMIT and the fact that you were on an AAS gave you the mental edge to EAT more.. which in turn whenever you up the intake of food you will gain weight.. not to mention you said you were using winstrol also.. which could equate for some of the gains you saw.. IN MY OPINION... WHICH I AM ENTITLED TO... The EQ didn't make you GAIN anything... YOU DID... Your HARD WORK.. YOUR DEDICATION... YOUR TRAINING... YOUR ROUTINE... and THE WINSTROL... Allowed you to gain 17lbs. during your cycle.. IT IS MY HONEST OPINION THE EQ DID NOTHING AND THAT YOU AS A HARD WORKING INDIVIDUAL IS THE THING THAT SHOULD BE THANKED FOR YOUR GAINS.. NOT THE EQ.
No it doesn't... PRIMO IS THE BEST AAS Ever created... the reason it is dosed so low is because it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get it to hold at any higher of a concentration..
Who says you need a ton of 10ml bottles?? I prefer the real deal... SCHERING AMPS... 1 per day for 16 weeks will yield you probably better results than DOUBLE THAT OF ANY EQ on the MARKET !!
It is NEWBIES that think that EQ is so GREAT !! They don't have the experience under their belts to know what to really expect.. and it's not their faults.. and I am not saying you are a newb bro.. I DONT KNOW YOU.. I can not make that determination.. but what i do know is that EQ is junk.. no one will ever tell me different... those who think it's GREAT !! All the more power to them.. seriously... IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET YOUR ASS MOTIVATED IN THE GYM AND DO WHAT YOU DO... GREAT !! IT'S JUST NOT FOR ME..
~Haz~
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You're way off and couldn't be more wrong. I was 41 when I first used AAS. I graduated high school and weighed 120lbs at 6'0. My gentic limit was 185lbs and I hit it in my late 20's all natural. I have been training religiously for over 27 years. I weigh 218lbs now.
It sounds like you have some kind of chip on your shoulder because some people like EQ and get a lot out of it...I don't get it.
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tanx bros
is it true primo act well with low calorie diet?
if yes only primo can do this or there are another aas that can do that?
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I've heard a lot of vets claim EQ isn't their top choice of chemical for whatever reasons Deuce mentioned. You need lots of it etc.
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CONGRATULATIONS
*and no not in a sarcastic being an dick kinda way.. I really mean it*
but, That's all well and good but the facts speak for themselves man, EQ does nothing but raise your RBC. and of course GIVE YOU MAJOR HUNGAR PANGS !! But it does NOT.. and WILL NOT... attribute to ANY MUSCLE GAINS DIRECTLY. It's a fact.
I am glad you have been training religiously for 27 years, but for someone who has cycled.. you should be a lot heavier than 218. UNLESS you are 218 and 5%BF... Then I could see justification .... but EQUIPOISE is a POSER DRUG... It's meant to get NEWBIES all hot and bothered for cycles I think...
I have used it BY ITSELF... and gotten NOTHING.. Not an ounce of strength or size.. some VASCULARITY yah.. but nothing worth writing home about...
LIKE I SAID.. If you wanna use it .. that's fine....
If other people wanna use it .. that's fine also....
Just dont recommend it as BETTER than Primobolan WHICH has been proven to actually DO SOMETHING !!
Wanna know how I know that?????
BECAUSE THEIR IS A HUMAN GRADE VERSION OF IT !! That means whoever they be.. figured that this compound was GREAT enough to be introduced to the PUBLIC as a MASS BUILDING AGENT for people with WASTING DISEASES such as HIV/AIDS and CANCER...
And what is EQUIPOISE??? A VETERINARY DRUG !! Meant for ANIMALS... not for HUMANS.. for ANIMALS... now... hmmm why do you suppose that is??
Because it is USELESS to the HUMANS ...
It's not because I have a chip on my shoulder.. it's just because I know what Im talking about.. or at least I THINK I DO.. and that's all that really matters...
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Some people make gains on EQ...period. It sounds like you have some mental issues and can't admit when you're wrong. People respect people that can admit they're wrong and move forward, something you can't seem to do.
Again, there are peple who gain from EQ and there are people who don't. If you can't handle that go talk to a professional, you need some help.
You don't even know how many cycles I've done or how old I am now. Yet you say 33lbs from an unknown number of cycles isn't good? I'm at 11-12% BF, the same as when I started AAS use. I have no idea why you're attacking me personally, I've made great progress in my bodybuilding efforts, and I'm very happy with my continued progress.
I like EQ and will continue to benefit from it in the future. I never said it was better than primo because I've never used primo. I don't know where you read I said that.
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Just thought I would weigh in here! I have used eq in several of my cycles and I admit it wont give you massive gains and it isnt one of the more potent compounds, I have made solid gains on it. I am embarrased to admit this but my first cycle was an eq alone cycle and I made great gains on it. my sex drive suffered but I did make modest gains.....
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IM NOT ATTACKING YOU BRO !!!
But apparently you like to attack me because I am simply stating that A COMPOUND DOES NOT BUILD MUSCLE TISSUE !!!
You have said I need Help, You have said I have a chip on my shoulder.. You have said all these things to me...
Yet I commend you on what you have achieved so far, i commend you that you were able to accomplish what you have for the age you are at.. if I was to guess.. it would be mid to upper 40's right?? Considering you said you didn't start until 41 using AAS... That in itself is very commendable.. that you were willing to wait that long and try and reach your genetic predisposition before turning to the darkside for assistance.
This ALL started when the OP asked which is BETTER... EQ or PRIMO.. Your reply .. and I quote: " What? My first cycle was an EQ/Winstrol cycle and I gained 17lbs and dropped a waist size.
Why do you make a ridiculous statement like that? "
Now what made me make a "RIDICULOUS STATEMENT" LIKE THAT WAS-- The fact that I know my compounds.. I have done a lot of research and A LOT MORE EXPERIMENTATION... What I learned through clinical trials and information from the VETS of this Board and OTHERS is that EQUIPOISE does not build Muscle tissue.. although it may create an ENVIRONMENT for you to make the muscle gains.. it doesn't by itself .. and I will stick by that statement UNTIL I DIE !!
I am not trying to create a fight.. I don't know you.. I try and be CIVIL with everyone on the board but YA JUST CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE.. Hopefully we can just move past this ridiculous BS ...
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everyone is entitled to their own opinions boys.............
What works for some may not work for others..................
I have used both and didnt rate either that much,and i used a goodly amount of both.
i know some tat have had gains from EQ and others tha have had solid gains from Primo...
Now do me a favour and calm this thread down please...........
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Sorry Booz...
It's just that when you feel so strongly about something you defend it to the death... and that's kinda what both sides of the argument were doing... I should have known better and just let it go...
I'll work on it
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anybody use primo during bridge?
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Yes as A MATTER FACT I have.. but I wouldn't recommend it... it will not allow you to recover.. because it supresses your NATTY Test... when you come OFF the whole purpose is to regain HOMEOSTASIS... Unless of course you are on TRT and in that case.. you need not to worry about it because you can not regain your natural Test levels..
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I thought Primo did not suppress you natty test?
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Yes, it absolutely will.
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OMGWTF U *****S why is everyone taking everything so litterally here now days. 1 guy sad eq doesnt do shit he didnt say its a proven fact hes stating his opinion on the question. if eq works for u cool then thats fine if it doesnt then **** it find a aas that does. everybody needs to quit bein little bitchs n answer the guys questions or go to another thread. To answer ur question boss i have yet to try primo but its to expencive to run at a decent dose but eq is so cheap it dont fvckn matter or not. i like it, dont hurt anyways
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eq and primo are for chicks...ha ha Since I'm a man I'll stick with test/tren/winny.
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I have a feeling that was directed at me Schmidty... but that's cool...
I did answer his QUESTION.. I told him PRIMO... even though it is EXPENSIVE.. it is the BEST out there.. IMHO.. comparable for building Mass without ANY sides... I mean for crying out loud.. EQ is a VET STEROID... PRIMO is a HG Compound prescribed to HUMANS that have WASTING Diseases... I.e.- Muscular Dystrophy, Cancer, HIV/AIDS... So Obviously when comparing which is better when PRICE isn't an issue... PRIMO !!
After this discussion in this THREAD I have decided....
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.. I am going to RUN EQUIPOISE.. at 1gram per week.. with just a TRT dose of TEST per week for 16 weeks.. I am going to LOG my results along with my DIET on at least a BI-WEEKLY Basis... Every Month I will TAPE myself for Measurements just to see how much I really do grow...
Then... Following same protocol.. with PRIMO.. I will run it at the same dose.. same length.. same TRT Strength, same Bulking diet... run the exact same kind of LOG and PUT THIS ISSUE TO REST ONCE AND FOR ALL.. It'll be a rigorous 32 weeks but... at the END...
SINCE IM WILLING TO GUINEA PIG THIS...
THE DEBATE WILL BE PUT TO REST FOR GOOD !!!!
But don't forgetALL !!!!
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PM me when u start this i wana see the logsI have a feeling that was directed at me Schmidty... but that's cool...
I did answer his QUESTION.. I told him PRIMO... even though it is EXPENSIVE.. it is the BEST out there.. IMHO.. comparable for building Mass without ANY sides... I mean for crying out loud.. EQ is a VET STEROID... PRIMO is a HG Compound prescribed to HUMANS that have WASTING Diseases... I.e.- Muscular Dystrophy, Cancer, HIV/AIDS... So Obviously when comparing which is better when PRICE isn't an issue... PRIMO !!
After this discussion in this THREAD I have decided....
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.. I am going to RUN EQUIPOISE.. at 1gram per week.. with just a TRT dose of TEST per week for 16 weeks.. I am going to LOG my results along with my DIET on at least a BI-WEEKLY Basis... Every Month I will TAPE myself for Measurements just to see how much I really do grow...
Then... Following same protocol.. with PRIMO.. I will run it at the same dose.. same length.. same TRT Strength, same Bulking diet... run the exact same kind of LOG and PUT THIS ISSUE TO REST ONCE AND FOR ALL.. It'll be a rigorous 32 weeks but... at the END...
SINCE IM WILLING TO GUINEA PIG THIS...
THE DEBATE WILL BE PUT TO REST FOR GOOD !!!!
But don't forget
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Tren FTW!
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Hey tboney, for your first cycle ( boldenone only ) you have using what dose ?
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