First time need advice

[newguy13]

Yeah it another stupid newbie! Just wanted to post my cycle i just started to maybe get some feedback and advice. I am 6 foot 229lbs 37 years old bf around 15% i know its a bit much.My goals with this cycle is to gain some mass to fill loose skin from prior weight lose 10 years ago but i am a submission grappler and have to becarful because of weight classes.So replacing some fat with muscle, tightening up, and strength are my main goals.My diet is pretty clean trying to get my protein up to at least 250 to 300 grams a day which is a little harder than it sounds, Ive found.

100mg eod Test Prop.
150mg eod deca
40mg ed anavar
Clomid for pct

Should I be taking my anavar for the whole cycle? and is that going to be an effective does of anavar?Thanks for any help and support.

[feeldapump89]

Yeah it another stupid newbie! Just wanted to post my cycle i just started to maybe get some feedback and advice. I am 6 foot 229lbs 37 years old bf around 15% i know its a bit much.My goals with this cycle is to gain some mass to fill loose skin from prior weight lose 10 years ago but i am a submission grappler and have to becarful because of weight classes.So replacing some fat with muscle, tightening up, and strength are my main goals.My diet is pretty clean trying to get my protein up to at least 250 to 300 grams a day which is a little harder than it sounds, Ive found.

100mg eod Test Prop.
150mg eod deca
40mg ed anavar
Clomid for pct

Should I be taking my anavar for the whole cycle? and is that going to be an effective does of anavar?Thanks for any help and support.

Most would suggest dropping the deca for your first cycle or two. Start with just Test at 400-500mgs per week.

[CMonkey]

Most would suggest dropping the deca for your first cycle or two. Start with just Test at 400-500mgs per week.

I would have to agree. A test only cycle would be the best first cycle. You find out how your body reacts to it, as it is the basis for all future cycles, if sides start showing up that you never had on test only, you will know what is causing them.

You will not see very much from the Anavar at 15%. It is better ran at single digit bodyfat numbers.

[Dont wanna be old]

I concur with last 2 posts, If this is your first cycle .

I believe you will like results from just running the test .

Good luck

[!!!ZeuS!!!]

maybe post your diet so people can look at it to help you you might not even neen aas

[ninesecz]

I would say you do not need the Deca Also... Built if you are planning on running it, I do not think you need to be shooting Deca EOD! Deca actually only needs to be shot 1 a week. sodoing it your way will just be a whole lot of extra pinning. I would also if I woere you definatley drop the Anavar . it is expensive and not needed for what you are trying to do. I would really also like to see you go with a longer estered Test since you are running a longer ester in the Deca (decanoate) You will IMO also need more than just some clomid for PCT. I would def. suggest you at least grab some nolva to rn with the clomid. Anything less will not be enough

[sigman roid]

I would drop the Deca and Just run a single long ester test like test e for 12 wks at 400-500 mg a week,I would also leave the Anavar it works best at sub 10% bf so imo its not worth it at the moment,Also for your pct you need nolva and clomid

[jbm]

I would drop the Deca and Just run a single long ester test like test e for 12 wks at 400-500 mg a week,I would also leave the Anavar it works best at sub 10% bf so imo its not worth it at the moment,Also for your pct you need nolva and clomid

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[ranging1]

I would drop the Deca and Just run a single long ester test like test e for 12 wks at 400-500 mg a week,I would also leave the Anavar it works best at sub 10% bf so imo its not worth it at the moment,Also for your pct you need nolva and clomid

agree aswell

[newguy13]

so drop the deca and run a test.prop. only cycle for 10 weeks or twelve? I kinda have to use my prop. first I have 3 vials then i can switch to a long ester. I have the anavar for a little fat lose and mainly for the hardening effects. I am totally not useing it to cut I understand thats just not gonna happen!But is it a negative to run it? What would be the best PCT for a test. and anavar cycle.Being my first time the pct is my biggest concern. It really is amazing how helpful everyone in this community is and it is greatly appreciated. And I will take that advice about the deca.Thanks

[newguy13]

And 1 last question what would be a safe dose to run of test prop. only I am 100mg eod.

[Aizen Sosuke]

100mg/EOD of propionate is fine.

[jason bourne]

maybe post diet like zeus said cause no steroid is a miracle drug a proper diet will show you gains and you might not even need to gear you can save money maybe it is a thought the diet gurus know what they are talking bout

[newguy13]

my diet is as follows,8 am 40 gram protein shake 10 am same shake,12 noon double meat ham and turkey 6 inch from subway 40 grams 2 pm same shake, 4 pm other half of subway 7pm same shake, 10pm 1 lb of chicken,lean ham,or lean beef,3 servings of green veg. and baked potato or rice, wheat bagette,that it not perfect i know but i also own 3 buisnesses and 2 kids and still train 8 hours a week grappling and 4 hours weights. AGAIN I AM not LOOKING TO CUT UP and i know gear is not a wonder drug just simply looking to fill loose skin from a prior large weight loss and i am using the anavar simply for the harding effect.What I am really needing is just the best pct for the cycle I am running.Any infowould be greatly appr.

[CMonkey]

Post your diet in the diet forum. That diet sucks, way too many shakes and not enough real food. You need to throw your whole diet out and start over.
The diet gurus will gladly help you work out a plan that will work with your busy schedule.

I know it is extremely hard this day and age to maintain a strong diet, what with work, family, and society in general. However, it is imperative that you get your diet worked out. If you can do that you will see unbelievable results, whether on cycle or off.

[Aizen Sosuke]

Post your diet in the diet forum. That diet sucks, way too many shakes and not enough real food. You need to throw your whole diet out and start over.
The diet gurus will gladly help you work out a plan that will work with your busy schedule.

I know it is extremely hard this day and age to maintain a strong diet, what with work, family, and society in general. However, it is imperative that you get your diet worked out. If you can do that you will see unbelievable results, whether on cycle or off.

Agreed. That diet is horrible. Head over to the diet section right now.

[newguy13]

I promise i will go to the guru for that help, But in the mean time I am a week into a test prop. and anavar cycle and find out my pct is crap. Thats really got me on edge. My cycle is all ready started and i need help with this situation Believe me I totally undestand my diet is crap. It does need a lot of help. What is the best pct plan Thank you for all of you guys help and any in the future is appriciated.

[Aizen Sosuke]

There's a ton of stickies on PCT and normally people will tell you to read them. Seeing as how you are already on juice I feel a responsability to help more. Here you go
Week 1
Nolvadex 40mg/day
Clomid 100mg/day
Weeks2 & 3
Nolvadex 20mg/day
Clomid 50mg/day
Week 4
Nolvadex 10mg/day
If you dont have these compounds please click the red banner on the top right corner of the page. Also please change your diet right now or you'll be wasting your money for sides only and stand to lose whatever you may gain. And lastly post what your cycle looks like in detail.

[newguy13]

So I start this 2 days after my last shot of test. prop. Correct? And yes I will totally take your advice on the diet starting today. My cycle is just 100 test propinate every other day and anavar @ 40 mg. everyday I plan a ten week cycle. Sound OK? Thanks again for the help

[CMonkey]

PCT starts the 3rd day after last injection of prop.

[Aizen Sosuke]

What he said^. Also save the anavar for the last 4 weeks. 10 weeks is ok.