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    Test E / Deca / Dbol second cycle

    Stats: 192, 6', age 25, 14%bf

    Training for 4 years, clean diet. will up my carb/cals once on cycle

    Natural test levels before any cycle were only 340 on the scale of 300-900.

    First cycle: Test-E 350. 583 a week for 12 weeks. PCT clomid/nolva
    I had good gains on the first cycle, my gains didnt start till about week 5 though with no sides but nut shrink.


    2nd Cycle plan:

    1-12 Test E 832mg (416mg every 3.5days)
    1-10 Deca 300mg once a week
    1-4 Dbol ed to kick it
    1-12 (letro on hand if needed)

    PCT: clomid / Nolva

    Looking for some advice on this cycle. if that enough deca to even run with the cycle? Let me know what you guys think.
    (i only have 1 10ml bottle of deca 300, thats why i split it like that.)

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    Thats a pretty high test dose for a second cycle. You would be better off lowering it and running more deca .

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    Deca =400 mgs wk.

    Test=500 to 600 mgs wk.

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    so maybe get less test and some more deca ? run the deca for the full 12weeks?

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    Test 12wks and deca 10wks

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    i agree^^^^^ what he said

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    I would just run the same as your first cycle but this time kickstart it with some dbol , no need to keep adding compounds if your gains were good, adjust the diet to suit the new tissue and train hard IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper9451 View Post
    Stats: 192, 6', age 25, 14%bf

    Training for 4 years, clean diet. will up my carb/cals once on cycle

    Natural test levels before any cycle were only 340 on the scale of 300-900.

    First cycle: Test-E 350. 583 a week for 12 weeks. PCT clomid/nolva
    I had good gains on the first cycle, my gains didnt start till about week 5 though with no sides but nut shrink.


    2nd Cycle plan:

    1-12 Test E 832mg (416mg every 3.5days)
    1-10 Deca 300mg once a week
    1-4 Dbol ed to kick it
    1-12 (letro on hand if needed)

    PCT: clomid / Nolva

    Looking for some advice on this cycle. if that enough deca to even run with the cycle? Let me know what you guys think.
    (i only have 1 10ml bottle of deca 300, thats why i split it like that.)
    cool 1

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    1-12 Test E 625mg (312.5mg every 3.5days)
    1-10 Deca 300mg once a week
    1-4 Dbol ed to kick it
    1-12 (letro on hand if needed)

    sound better? is it worth getting another bottle of deca to run it at 400mgs or 500mgs a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper9451 View Post
    1-12 Test E 625mg (312.5mg every 3.5days)
    1-10 Deca 300mg once a week
    1-4 Dbol ed to kick it
    1-12 (letro on hand if needed)

    sound better? is it worth getting another bottle of deca to run it at 400mgs or 500mgs a week?
    bump

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    I must ask.....where are you coming up with these test doses?

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    test 250mg per 1cc. 12 week cycle pinning 3.5 days. thats 24 pricks. 3 10ml bottles is 7500mgs. devide that by 24 is 312.5. so shooting that twice a week makes 625 ew. makes sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper9451 View Post
    test 250mg per 1cc. 12 week cycle pinning 3.5 days. thats 24 pricks. 3 10ml bottles is 7500mgs. devide that by 24 is 312.5. so shooting that twice a week makes 625 ew. makes sense?
    ok, I see what you did.

    That's just not the typical way of calculating dosages.

    usually you just decide on a dose per week, and adjust your injections accordingly. Ie, you don't have to shoot only 1ml. Get it?

    Anyway, cycle looks ok.

    What's dose will you run the dbol ?

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    i have not got an answer on what dbol is availible to me yet. so i will update when i do know. Last time i was shooting .9cc when i had test-e350mgs. I wanted a little more than 500 so thats why i broke it down to a full 1cc and get 3 bottles

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    Still looking for info if i should get another bottle of deca to do more than the 300mgs for 10weeks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper9451 View Post
    Still looking for info if i should get another bottle of deca to do more than the 300mgs for 10weeks...
    I'd bump it to at least 400. I ran deca only once and it was at 600mg per week. 400 shold be fine for you. I'm sure you can calculate how to dose 400mg lol.

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    sounds good. ill try to grab another 10ml of deca300 as well. so how much Dbol for the 4 weeks ed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper9451 View Post
    sounds good. ill try to grab another 10ml of deca300 as well. so how much Dbol for the 4 weeks ed?
    40-60mg/day.

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