Test E - First Cycle Advice

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:21 AM

So i'm about to embark in the world of testosterone enhante. I have about 3 vials which should last me the full 10-12 week cycle. I plan on running this alone at about 500 mgs a week or so to see how I react and all that since it's my first cycle of this stuff.

Anyways, what do I all need as far as this goes? I have needles, syringes, and NOLVA already. I was thinking about getting Clomid also for PCT.

Specs:
Age: 28
Weight: 245 (15% Bf)
Height: 6'4''

Lift 4-5 days a week...very active and my diet is on point. Eat extremely clean: oats, whey, steaks, chicken, veggies, fruit, eggs, etc. I don't ever eat white carbs or any junk food ever...no sweets or anything processed garbage. I've been reading up on this for awhile and just want to make sure I have covered all my bases before I start. (Calories range from 3500-4500 depending on lifting/non lifting days)

Lifting Specs:
Leg press 705x5
Military: 225 x 3
Bench: 315 x 1
Squats: 300 x 5
Deadlifts: 315 x 8
(I don't MAX often so this is my latest lifts)

Other supps I have been taking:
Sesasmin/Fish Oil/CLA
Creatine Mono
Whey/Egg-Milk Protein
Xtend
Glycergrow
Primal N20

Any help I'd appreciate it!!!!!

**Vitruvian-Man** · 08-31-2009, 09:29 AM

Sounds good to me.

Very respectable stats. (hopefully the cycle will bring the BF% down and get you a nice lean, yet muscular physique.

I would suggest taking 500mg Test-E (inject 250mg twice a week) for 14 weeks.

After your last injection wait 14 days, and begin taking nolvadex and clomid. (yes, you should use clomid too.)

Otherwise, everything looks good. Hope you see good results, keep us updated.

**ninesecz** · 08-31-2009, 09:34 AM

Good job researching and having everything you need for a first cycle.. I would for sure get my hands on some clomid. Have you researched how to take your PCT? you have pleanty of time jjust want to make sure you do it right! other than that good luck! You should get pretty strong from this cycle

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Sounds good to me.

Very respectable stats. (hopefully the cycle will bring the BF% down and get you a nice lean, yet muscular physique.

I would suggest taking 500mg Test-E (inject 250mg twice a week) for 14 weeks.

After your last injection wait 14 days, and begin taking nolvadex and clomid. (yes, you should use clomid too.)

Otherwise, everything looks good. Hope you see good results, keep us updated.

Awesome. What you described was exactly my plan. I was going to grab some clomid also and take them both during PCT (the right way). And yeah I'll probably do the Mon-Thurs routine that I read on Test E sticky. Awesome. Can't wait to get started. I'm excited. Goal is get down to a ripped and stripped 230s with about 12% bodyfat at least.

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

Good job researching and having everything you need for a first cycle.. I would for sure get my hands on some clomid. Have you researched how to take your PCT? you have pleanty of time jjust want to make sure you do it right! other than that good luck! You should get pretty strong from this cycle

I've ran a Havoc/Tren cycle before (oral cycle) and ran Nolva after so yes....I get the concept of PCT and the dosing protocols as well. Only thing I have to get used to is injections and dosing...after that I should be pretty well knowledgeable.

Question: Should I get Arimidex for this cycle?

**Vitruvian-Man** · 08-31-2009, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Awesome. What you described was exactly my plan. I was going to grab some clomid also and take them both during PCT (the right way). And yeah I'll probably do the Mon-Thurs routine that I read on Test E sticky. Awesome. Can't wait to get started. I'm excited. Goal is get down to a ripped and stripped 230s with about 12% bodyfat at least.

Good to hear man, glad we are on the same page.

Definitely do the Monday/Thursday split. It works perfectly for a first cycle.

I would even consider going for 220 with 10%... because I really like that lean, vascular look... but just remember lots of cardio!

PM me if you need help man.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 08-31-2009, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Only thing I have to get used to is injections and dosing...after that I should be pretty well knowledgeable.

If your Test concentration is 250mg/mL (most Test-E is this way.. look on the bottle)... then it'll mean you need to inject 2mL a week = 500mg each week.

1mL on mon + 1mL thurs.

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Good to hear man, glad we are on the same page.

Definitely do the Monday/Thursday split. It works perfectly for a first cycle.

I would even consider going for 220 with 10%... because I really like that lean, vascular look... but just remember lots of cardio!

PM me if you need help man.

Yeah I need to get in the cardio more often. Been really focused on my lifting lately and haven't been doing cardio really. I just ran a 7 mile marathon in july and was running a ton to prepare for that and was getting quite cut up from that. After the race I just kinda took it easy with the running, was taking a toll on my body.

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

If your Test concentration is 250mg/mL (most Test-E is this way.. look on the bottle)... then it'll mean you need to inject 2mL a week = 500mg each week.

1mL on mon + 1mL thurs.

Mine's actually 300mg/mL ....so I'm trying to figure out the dosage yet.

**sigman roid** · 08-31-2009, 09:43 AM

Your pretty much sorted you might want to get a A.I in case you have any problems and you should definitley use clomid with your nolva in pct
nolva
40/20/20/20
clomid
100/50/50/50

**Vitruvian-Man** · 08-31-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Mine's actually 300mg/mL ....so I'm trying to figure out the dosage yet.

Then shoot 0.6 - 0.7mL every 3.5 days.

You're lucky, that's a very small injection (minimal oil)

In total you will be injecting ~1.7mL per week.

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

Your pretty much sorted you might want to get a A.I in case you have any problems and you should definitley use clomid with your nolva in pct
nolva
40/20/20/20
clomid
100/50/50/50

Is hCG necessary on a cycle like this? Or would it be more appropriate when stacking a cycle?

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Then shoot 0.6 - 0.7mL every 3.5 days.

You're lucky, that's a very small injection (minimal oil)

In total you will be injecting ~1.7mL per week.

Even better then. Not too thrilled about doing these injections...been watching some videos on how to do it and prepare it...hopefully i'll just get used to it.

**sigman roid** · 08-31-2009, 09:47 AM

You wont really know until your on cycle as everybody is different some people need to use it some dont i personally dont

**CrazyHorse13** · 08-31-2009, 09:53 AM

Well I am glad to see that your ready......

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

You wont really know until your on cycle as everybody is different some people need to use it some dont i personally dont

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse13

Well I am glad to see that your ready......

Been ready! Just had to do my research of course and see how other's have done there cycles....and then actually getting everything in line of course is probably the most work. Well I can't wait to make some progress. I've been making some good gains on all lifts already so I'm ready to really through some weight around now.

**sigman roid** · 08-31-2009, 09:59 AM

Let us know how it goes bro....goodluck

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

Let us know how it goes bro....goodluck

Yeah I'll try to keep a log on this stuff....I more then likely will.

**jason bourne** · 08-31-2009, 10:46 AM

nice like to see someone who actually did some research before getting on here and telling us the f up'd cycle they were planning on running. I am going to follow your resluts as that will be my first cycle when i get home from deployment and have hit my natural goals. Good luck

**jcosley** · 08-31-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by jason bourne

nice like to see someone who actually did some research before getting on here and telling us the f up'd cycle they were planning on running. I am going to follow your resluts as that will be my first cycle when i get home from deployment and have hit my natural goals. Good luck

Thx man appreciate it! I'll keep u all posted.

**jcosley** · 09-02-2009, 07:40 AM

Quick bump to this for a question.

I've been reading a little bit more and it says you should take an AI while on this cycle 2-3 times a week. Anyone here do this while on TEST E ? Should I take 2-3 doses of Nolva a week while on this cycle?

**Duma23** · 09-02-2009, 07:45 AM

i took aromasin 50mg every other day, it boosts test lvls to

**jcosley** · 09-02-2009, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Dumachi

i took aromasin 50mg every other day, it boosts test lvls to

Interesting...I've actually never heard of that to be totally honest.

Edit: Did you mean Arimidex ? If so, I've heard of that. Just wondering if anyone else runs an AI while on cycle....and if I should.

**ninesecz** · 09-02-2009, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Then shoot 0.6 - 0.7mL every 3.5 days.

You're lucky, that's a very small injection (minimal oil)

In total you will be injecting ~1.7mL per week.

Which number is right?
On the 1st line you say 0.6-0.7ml every 3 day X2 = 1.2-1.4ml
On the bottom line you tell him to shoot 1.7ml!!
Which one is it?

***D7M*** · 09-02-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Interesting...I've actually never heard of that to be totally honest.

Edit: Did you mean Arimidex? If so, I've heard of that. Just wondering if anyone else runs an AI while on cycle....and if I should.

You should have an AI on hand, and run it if gyno sides appear.

Originally Posted by ninesecz

Which number is right?
On the 1st line you say 0.6-0.7ml every 3 day X2 = 1.2-1.4ml
On the bottom line you tell him to shoot 1.7ml!!
Which one is it?

I'm sure it was a typo, V-man meant 1.4ml per week.

He always has solid posts.

**Duma23** · 09-02-2009, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Interesting...I've actually never heard of that to be totally honest.

Edit: Did you mean Arimidex? If so, I've heard of that. Just wondering if anyone else runs an AI while on cycle....and if I should.

http://www.steroid.com/Aromasin.php

read that.