dosage question

**diesel094** · 08-31-2009, 03:03 PM

hey guys,

i just bought 3 10 ml vials of test e at 250 mg/ml. just wondering if taking it at difference dosages would make a difference. this is what i am thinking about doing: either 14 weeks at 500 mg/ml a week, 12 weeks at 600mg/ml a week, or 10 weeks at 750 mg/ml a week. let me know what would be the best or if there is no difference at all

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:06 PM

Need your stats

cycle experience

**Juturna** · 08-31-2009, 03:07 PM

Age;
Height;
Weight;
BF%;
Previous Cycles;
Training Exp;

Have your diet on-hand, please.

**diesel094** · 08-31-2009, 03:10 PM

22 yrs
6'00''
220 lbs
bf around 17%
took 1 cycle of test p about 5 months ago, 350mg/ml a week for 8 weeks
been training for 4-5 yrs, diet has been a lot cleaner the last 5 months than it ever has

**Juturna** · 08-31-2009, 03:12 PM

Are you aware that having such a high BF% while running a cycle of AAS makes you much more prone to Gyno?

With the above being said - if you refused to work naturally to get below 15% (safest) then obviously I recommend running a low dose (500mg) for only 12 weeks.

With THAT being said - you undoubtedly need to take an AI during cycle and also think about Nolva on cycle.

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:14 PM

I think you will be good with test at 500mg a week for 12 weeks.

If you start jumping the dose up now when you dont need to you will have to always continue the high dose to get the results you want.

Keep it low for now and gradually increase over the years

CHAP

**diesel094** · 08-31-2009, 03:15 PM

i have that already. and i also am not taking the gear for a few months. i am clen cycling now and hopefully will get my bf down to about 12% by the time id like to start. that being said, what do you suggest for 12%

**Juturna** · 08-31-2009, 03:16 PM

Well I still recommend only 500mg EW for 12 weeks. You'll make massive gains still.

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:17 PM

I dont agree that everyone needs to be under 15 to cycle. But it seems to be the consensus around here.

I believe 17 will not make a difference. But you need to have a good PCT in your hands before you take your 1st shot.

**Mooseman33** · 08-31-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by diesel094

22 yrs
6'00''
220 lbs
bf around 17%
took 1 cycle of test p about 5 months ago, 350mg/ml a week for 8 weeks
been training for 4-5 yrs, diet has been a lot cleaner the last 5 months than it ever has

What did u run for PCT?

do u have PCT for this cycle..

**Juturna** · 08-31-2009, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by CHAP

I dont agree that everyone needs to be under 15 to cycle. But it seems to be the consensus around here.

I believe 17 will not make a difference. But you need to have a good PCT in your hands before you take your 1st shot.

17% is a lot... Think about it.

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:19 PM

There are only 2 reasons to take an AI during cycle.

1- If you want to keepp the bloat to a minimum

2- If signs of gyno are beginning to show.

No one will know this except you.

**diesel094** · 08-31-2009, 03:19 PM

i am clen cycling now and hopefully will get my bf down to about 12% by the time id like to start.

i will not be starting until i am below that. the first cycle i did not need nolva for gyno, but heard it is more likely to form after the 1st cycle

**Mooseman33** · 08-31-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

What did u run for PCT?

do u have PCT for this cycle..

repeat....

**diesel094** · 08-31-2009, 03:21 PM

last pct was garbage, it was nolva 40/40/20/20

this cycle will be nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50. is that good enough?

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by diesel094

i will not be starting until i am below that. the first cycle i did not need nolva for gyno, but heard it is more likely to form after the 1st cycle

I dont know how true that is but I did not have my gyno begin until about my 3rd cycle.

And actully formed after I had finished my PCT and had no more AI on hand

**diesel094** · 08-31-2009, 03:23 PM

alright thanks. how does my pct look?

**Mooseman33** · 08-31-2009, 03:25 PM

read SWIFTO thread on HCG ..
i will not run a cycle again without it..

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by diesel094

last pct was garbage, it was nolva 40/40/20/20

this cycle will be nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50. is that good enough?

Nolva 40/40/40/40

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

read SWIFTO thread on HCG ..
i will not run a cycle again without it..

I never use HCG and wish I could go back and use HCG . This is 1 of the regrets I have

**diesel094** · 08-31-2009, 03:28 PM

alright sounds good. but wont i make even more massive gains with 600mg/ml for 12 or 750mg/ml for 10?

**Mooseman33** · 08-31-2009, 03:30 PM

no..
ur gains will be built around diet and training..u will have plenty of test in ur system.
keep in mind with AAS, MORE IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER..

this is ur 2nd cycle, u will be very happy..

**c-Z** · 08-31-2009, 03:31 PM

Listen to chap bro... you will make excellent gains at 500mgs... test e takes like 5 weeks for some to actually kick in...... run it 12 weeks.... dont up your dose and run it shorter. 500 will do you fine bro.

**CHAP** · 08-31-2009, 03:31 PM

If your gear is dosed correctly 500 mg is going to do the job.

Higher doses = higher sides

Save the 600mg a week for a few cycles down the road.

I have been on 400mg for a while an have had great gains.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 08-31-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by CHAP

I dont know how true that is but I did not have my gyno begin until about my 3rd cycle.

And actully formed after I had finished my PCT and had no more AI on hand

so what ended up happening? did you reverse it?