ok guy debating making the leap

im 21yrs old 5'9 180lbs about 12% BF

im debating making the leap

i wanna put on 10-15lbs mostly in my core and lower body

and i wanna get down to about 8% BF my goals are no long Aesthetic the are for Performance, specifically wrestling.

I feel i can obtain this natty in about a year. your thoughts?

if i were to do it, it has to be the least noticeable drugs a possible.

-AJ

Dieting will get u there and hard work in Gym. Ur young, its possible

pls read http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/398146-aas-things-consider-before-starting-first-cycle-great-read.html

I think your goals can be achieved without AAS, your young and have a high level of hormones which will to the trick.

Bump

If your goal aint aesthetics.. 8% is definitely achievable via the natural route

No offense AJ but I think you need to really think about this one. You tend to change your mind a lot on what exactly your goals are. Once you go to AAS there is no changing your mind about going back.

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Originally Posted by marcus300

pls read http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

I think your goals can be achieved without AAS, your young and have a high level of hormones which will to the trick.

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Agreed.

putting on 10-15lbs lean mass while dropping 4% BF is a high goal for one year IMO even with AAS. if you can make that much progress naturally as you suggested, then definitely dont use AAS, save them for later.

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Originally Posted by powerliftmike

putting on 10-15lbs lean mass while dropping 4% BF is a high goal for one year IMO even with AAS. if you can make that much progress naturally as you suggested, then definitely dont use AAS, save them for later.

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Agreed.

It would be remarkable if you did that naturally.

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Originally Posted by A2thej2008

im 21yrs old 5'9 180lbs about 12% BF

im debating making the leap

i wanna put on 10-15lbs mostly in my core and lower body

and i wanna get down to about 8% BF my goals are no long Aesthetic the are for Performance, specifically wrestling.

I feel i can obtain this natty in about a year. your thoughts?

if i were to do it, it has to be the least noticeable drugs a possible.

-AJ

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If you want to juice for wrestling, nothing will beat a small cycle. The strength alone from the gear will give you the advantage. As far as your goals for stats? I think you could do it natty, but you'd own anyone in wrestling if you cycled.

Siz, what would u run then prop?

Im staying natty for at least another yaer lol

but what would u run?

I would run prop yeah.. do like 6-10 weeks or something. Only downside is lots of injections, but if you're ok with that than I would go prop. Less estro sides too.