Starting a new cycle, want some advice...from experienced users only please

**sportfan33** · 09-01-2009, 09:28 PM

I want to run decca 400mg week, w a test. Now i was thinking test p because i love test p, and got great gains off it before, but i understand thats a short acting ester, and might not be hte best to run with decca. So maybe ill run test e instead. I also would run 50mg of dbol a day for 4 weeks. Whats yalls opinion. I have never done decca and have also read that you should shoot 2mg per pound of body weight...is that true?

**oneshot** · 09-01-2009, 10:53 PM

whats your cycle history? test e or c would probably work best with deca since you could just shoot em at the same time. 400 mg ew would be a fairly mild dose, but i guess that would depend on what you have experience with.

**Phate** · 09-01-2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by oneshot

whats your cycle history? test e or c would probably work best with deca since you could just shoot em at the same time. 400 mg ew would be a fairly mild dose, but i guess that would depend on what you have experience with.

^^^^

stats?
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
diet?
pct?

if you want to run test prop you could also run npp(nandrolone phenylpropionate), which is basically short estered deca

**TITANIUM** · 09-01-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by sportfan33

I want to run decca 400mg week, w a test. Now i was thinking test p because i love test p, and got great gains off it before, but i understand thats a short acting ester, and might not be hte best to run with decca. So maybe ill run test e instead. I also would run 50mg of dbol a day for 4 weeks. Whats yalls opinion. I have never done decca and have also read that you should shoot 2mg per pound of body weight...is that true?

Deca and Test E run awesome together.

Deca=200 mgs wk X 2

Test= 250 mgs wk X 2

Deca runs usually for 10 weeks.

Test is usually runs for 12 weeks.

The D-bol= 40 to 50 mgs ed for 4 wks.(front loaded).

Best

T

**TITANIUM** · 09-01-2009, 11:05 PM

OK -Phate posted while I was typing with my 2 index fingers!!!LOL

I really need to learn how to type correctly.

You are in good hands with Phate.

Best

T

**oneshot** · 09-01-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

^^^^

if you want to run test prop you could also run npp(nandrolone phenylpropionate), which is basically short estered deca

and its glorious!

**Vitruvian-Man** · 09-01-2009, 11:09 PM

Test - Prop (weeks 1 - 10) @ 75mg ED
NPP (weeks 1 - 9) @ 75mg ED
D-bol (weeks 1 - 5) @ 50mg ED

^^ Great cycle = Lean gains, no bloat (with the exception of a little water retention from the d-bol). And, you don't have to wait for any of the compounds to to kick in, since they're all fast acting.

**sportfan33** · 09-01-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

^^^^

stats?
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
diet?
pct?

if you want to run test prop you could also run npp(nandrolone phenylpropionate), which is basically short estered deca

4th cycle. 26 265 6'6 not sure bf percentage i have trained for a long time, lets say my whole life, considering i played basketball and fball in college. Decent diet, pct clomid and nolva and got some arimidex .

**sportfan33** · 09-01-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Test - Prop (weeks 1 - 10) @ 75mg ED
NPP (weeks 1 - 9) @ 75mg ED
D-bol (weeks 1 - 5) @ 50mg ED

^^ Great cycle = Lean gains, no bloat (with the exception of a little water retention from the d-bol). And, you don't have to wait for any of the compounds to to kick in, since they're all fast acting.

So ur saying to get that faster acting decca? that would be fine w me, im not trying to get to massive and i know if i run decca with test e i would. I just wanna put on a solid 20 pounds w not to much bloat.

**Phate** · 09-01-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by sportfan33

4th cycle. 26 265 6'6 not sure bf percentage i have trained for a long time, lets say my whole life, considering i played basketball and fball in college. Decent diet, pct clomid and nolva and got some arimidex.

hcg would be a good addition when you're using a 19nor

**sportfan33** · 09-01-2009, 11:32 PM

yes i was thinking aout getting some of that too, just wasnt sure how to take it, cause iv never used that before, and none of my friends have either. From what i know i should take 500iu a day, but for how long i have no idea.

**oneshot** · 09-01-2009, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by sportfan33

So ur saying to get that faster acting decca? that would be fine w me, im not trying to get to massive and i know if i run decca with test e i would. I just wanna put on a solid 20 pounds w not to much bloat.

i would also prefer a prop/npp cycle over the long esters. get in fast, get out fast, recover. 20 lb of muscle is a pretty unreasonable goal for any cycle

**sportfan33** · 09-02-2009, 12:18 AM

yes, i meant weight up 20lbs. i know not all that is gonna be muscle, but on the average of my cycles i have put on 20 to 25 lbs each one. i can put muscle on easily, but the downside with that is a can loose it easily too.

**sportfan33** · 09-02-2009, 12:20 AM

i have also been thinkin...i really dont want decca dic*. I wanna be able to use my sexual organs or where is the fun in it. So any other suggestions. maybe a tren testp cycle, or something of that nature.