Revised first cycle...

[Meshy]

Been doing alot of reading and research on this site for the past week and gone back to the drawing board after some great advice from you guys. Feel I'm alot more educated on the world of AAS and now ready to start my first cycle.

I'm now eatting alot more and have got my diet in check ready for a bulking cycle. (3500+ calories 420/260/85) and will be using the slingshot training system.

I'm going for Phate's beginner cycle and just want to clarify a few things. So here's my intended cycle including PCT:

Cycle
1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day
1-12 liv52

PCT
Anastrozole .25mg starting 2 weeks before cycle and continued through weeks 1-12
Week 12 Nolvadex 20mg ED for a week
Week 13 Nolvadex 10mg ED for a week

Main thing I'm unsure about is the PCT as C Bino states that you don't need to run an AI and SERM together. Is my intended PCT adequate? or do i need to start the Nolvadex and end the Anastrozole earlier? Anything I've missed?

Thanks, Meshy

[marcus300]

What are your stats?
How long have you been training for?

Some people will just recover from nolva, some need nolva/clomid together personally I would go with nolva/clomid combo.

[Meshy]

29, 5'8, 158lbs, 10 years training, 12%BF, very slim but muscular build....

I know last time everyone was saying that I could gain just by paying more attension to my diet. I have managed to get upto 180lbs with arround 14% BF a few years back by eatting sh!t loads but i didn't push more weights back then. I feel i have reached my bodies natural limits...

[Meshy]

Some people will just recover from nolva, some need nolva/clomid together personally I would go with nolva/clomid combo.

So if i were to start nolva/clomid combo weeks 12-13, just for two weeks, would that be sufficient?

[marcus300]

I would start some HCG the last 2 weeks of the cycle and then start nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

[Hazard]

I would start some HCG the last 2 weeks of the cycle and then start nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

^^^^ i agree.....

I would get some HCG. If you can't..... then I would start nolva and clomid at week 14 and run them as Marcus outlined.

The reason you start them at week 14 is because it's going to take 2 weeks for the testosterone (enanthate esther) to clear your system. The nolva can be started sooner if you're having some estrogen issues - otherwise..... i'd start week 14.

~Haz~

[Meshy]

Cool... thanks guys.

Now just gotta make sure i've got everything lined up before i start... looking forward to see what results i get