First Cycle

**growingman** · 12-27-2002, 09:15 AM

I have deceided to stop being a wuss and inject. I am looking to gain 20 lbs of muscle when all is said and done with the following:

wk 1 - 6: 20mg d-bol ED
wk 1 - 10: 250mg test enanthate weekly (Is this the best test to use and is it enough?)
wk 11 - 12: 40mg Nolva ED
wk 13 - 14: 20mg Nolva ED

What do you guys think of this for a first cycle?

**KeyMastur** · 12-27-2002, 09:21 AM

Good joice on injecting. Once you start, you will see that it's not that bad. Even get yourself some 25 guage so you won't feel but a slight pinch - it'll take a while longer to push the juice in, but it'll help if you're scared of the pain of needles.

**Rastus** · 12-27-2002, 09:32 AM

How about some stats on yourself?
Test seems low, but it kinda depends on your history and stats....

**pumpseeker** · 12-27-2002, 09:53 AM

I would change it to:
Dbol 40 mgs/ED weeks 1-4
Test Enanthate 500 mgs/week weeks 1-10

And save the nolvadex for whenever you need it. Then take 20 mgs/ED until end of clomid. You have clomid right?

Also, if you can add some Eq or deca , I'd do it @ 400 mgs/week 1-10.

**MDMA** · 12-27-2002, 10:07 AM

For your first cycle, 250mg test is fine in my opinion. I did my first test cycle like this and it worked great! Your body will react amazing too it.

Think of it like this: Your body naturally makes approx. 70mg of test per week. By putting 250mg in your body, you are more than trippling your natural test levels! That's plenty to grow bro.

Also, with 250mg a week, you don't need that much Nolv. I say take it weeks 4-6 and 11-12 @ 20mg ED. Reason for this split is the dBol will give you a lot of water, the Nolv will help to bring some of that water weight down, weeks 11-12 are just standard, and you can every carry it through your clomid if you'd like- choice is yours.

**growingman** · 12-27-2002, 10:25 AM

Stats: 21, 195 lbs, 13%body fat, 5'11''

Cycle:

wk 1 - 6: 20mg d-bol ED
wk 1 - 10: 500mg test enanthate (one a week)
wk 11 - 12: 40mg Nolva ED
wk 13 - 14: 20mg Nolva ED

What do you guys think? Should I run 20mg of Nolva at weeks 4 - 6 also to limit my water gain from the d-bol? Also, would a 25 guage needle work for test enanthate?

thanks for your input