Help please

**LEGEND10** · 09-04-2009, 04:57 PM

Hi im just trying to get a bit of advice frome some of you more experianced guys..im a semi professional rugby league player and over the past two years had some injuries and a couple of operations . I had a acl knee reconstruction and quite a big shoulder op i have fully recovered from both but have had limited time in the gym because of the injuries and have lost alot of gains that i once had.i have spoke to a couple of guys in the gym and they have recomended a cycle of winsrol and viramone. I have never taken any steroids before so im a newbie. I have limited time to take any steroids as the rugby season starts around january-febuary time so detection times also come into play as i could be drug tested....what sort of gains could i make in such a small amount of time and do you think it is worth it with the risk of drugs tests ? Iv been training hard but im getting frustrated because i feel im way ofF the mark with regards to strength and overall condition to what i need to be like to be ready for the oncoming season ... Any advice would be great.
thanks
john

**c-Z** · 09-04-2009, 04:59 PM

In order for us to help you better... Your stats are necessary. Age-height-weight-bf %-Goals.

How is your diet.

And i would not run a cycle of winstrol ....

And if your looking for steroids to get back to where you were due to your injury... I wouldn't recommend it.... It takes time to heal... Jumping on a cycle and having strength gains can do more damage then just letting it heal itself.

**LEGEND10** · 09-04-2009, 05:05 PM

hi im 27 6ft 2 i weigh 117kg dont know my bf% but its to high ... my goals are to get to around 107kg but to have packed some muscle back on ..

**LEGEND10** · 09-04-2009, 05:06 PM

my diet is now good im eatin six small meals per day high in protien and im doing alot of cardio

**c-Z** · 09-04-2009, 05:09 PM

Bro... Running anything at a higher bf % will increase sides and chances of gyno.

Diet is your best friend along with the treadmill. And with your injury I really wouldn't want to tell you to do anything.....

Strength gains are good pending on what you take. And like i said.. Can do more damage if your body isn't 100% to handle it.

**LEGEND10** · 09-04-2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

In order for us to help you better... Your stats are necessary. Age-height-weight-bf %-Goals.

How is your diet.

And i would not run a cycle of winstrol ....

And if your looking for steroids to get back to where you were due to your injury... I wouldn't recommend it.... It takes time to heal... Jumping on a cycle and having strength gains can do more damage then just letting it heal itself.

so you think i should just keep training hard naturally ?

**Charlie6** · 09-04-2009, 05:12 PM

yes, rest and diet and training will do you. If there is even a chance that you could get tested then don't do it...trust me

goodluck

**LEGEND10** · 09-04-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

Bro... Running anything at a higher bf % will increase sides and chances of gyno.

Diet is your best friend along with the treadmill. And with your injury I really wouldn't want to tell you to do anything.....

Strength gains are good pending on what you take. And like i said.. Can do more damage if your body isn't 100% to handle it.

i feel i have fully recovered from my injuries just lookin to get some good gains before the next season starts .... thanks for your comments

**c-Z** · 09-04-2009, 05:14 PM

Yeah but with that bf% i would hit the diet section and post it out.... Let them revise it for you. Tweak it up a bit..... So you know your intaking the right foods.

And stay on cardio.

If you feel comfortable post a pic up and request a bf% calculation guestimate. Black your face out.......

**LEGEND10** · 09-04-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

Yeah but with that bf% i would hit the diet section and post it out.... Let them revise it for you. Tweak it up a bit..... So you know your intaking the right foods.

And stay on cardio.

If you feel comfortable post a pic up and request a bf% calculation guestimate. Black your face out.......

yeah i will do thanks for the advice