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    Yet another cycle question

    I wanted to ask for an opinion or two on my next cycle. I did my first real cycle last winter/spring. That was:
    16 weeks of Test (e and p), with some deca/winni.
    Proper pct for 4-5 weeks hcg, clomid, nolva, and I ran some adex during cycle as needed.
    32 years old, 156lbs, 5', 12% bf
    I made some good gains. I was up about 15lbs of muscle at the end of the cycle and as of right now (5 months later) I kept 10lbs of it which was my goal from the beginning.
    I have had some trouble recovering and I think it is because I ran the cycle too long. I was running good doses of Test the entire cycle so i was shut down for a long time. I never had limp dick at all but for about 6 weeks after pct I definitely wasn't very interested in sex which is NOT like me. We were going at it like a couple of drunk monkeys while on cycle, twice a day sometimes. I didn't have much energy either. I tried some test boosters and felt a little better but got terrible acne from them. Over the last 2 months I feel like it has come back. Sex drive is much better and I have a lot more energy. I feel like i'm back to normal now.
    For my next cycle I am going to try to avoid being shut down for so long by doing a few things different. For one I am going to run the normal amount of Test P (100mgs/day) starting on day one but i'm only going to run it for 8 weeks. I'm also going to run hcg starting in week 2 of the cycle and run it till the end. Thinking around 250iu's twice/week. I'm going to run the same pct as my previous cycle - clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20 and probably run hcg during first two weeks of pct also. I'll use adex as needed.
    I wanted to get some opinions on this. Do you think that switching from a long, drawn out cycle with mild doses to a shorter cycle with heavy doses is a wise idea for someone like me? My idea is to hit it hard right from the beginning, train like an animal, eat like an animal with a lot of clean protein/carbs and gain as much as possible in those 8 weeks. Then come off and hopefully my recovery will be easier due to not being shut down as long and the use of hcg throughout cycle. My goal is another 10lbs of muscle.

    Thanks

    Karo

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    How tall are you.... That weight is VERY LIGHT...

    What is the diet looking like?

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    He's 5', right?

    I've noticed a drop in gains whenever I've ran longer cycles.

    So, try the prop cycle and see how it works for you.

    you might want to consider keeping the prop dose at 75mg/day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-Z View Post
    How tall are you.... That weight is VERY LIGHT...

    What is the diet looking like?
    Just under 5 foot and no i'm not a horse jockey.

    Diet is good but not great. 1.5-2 grams protein/day from chicken, fish and lean ground beef. Good carbs such as potatoe, sweet potatoes, oatmeal and rice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    He's 5', right?

    I've noticed a drop in gains whenever I've ran longer cycles.

    So, try the prop cycle and see how it works for you.

    you might want to consider keeping the prop dose at 75mg/day.
    I switched over to Prop in my last cycle around week 12 and responded very well to it. That's why I went the extra 4 weeks. I don't have any question about which compounds i'll use as I really like Prop over Test E. Just the duration of my cycle. I'm wondering if an intense, short-duration cycle will yield good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karo View Post
    I switched over to Prop in my last cycle around week 12 and responded very well to it. That's why I went the extra 4 weeks. I don't have any question about which compounds i'll use as I really like Prop over Test E. Just the duration of my cycle. I'm wondering if an intense, short-duration cycle will yield good results.
    Gotcha.

    different people will respond to different protocols. But like I said I noticed gains start tappering off significantly when I ran longer cycles.

    I respond pretty well to short intense cycles.

    here's a good thread on the topic:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=345944

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    Thanks man. That's a good read. Exactly what I was looking for.

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    no prob.

    I know there are several other threads on it as well.

    try searching for short burst.

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    couldnt you say what you want to say in less words? no ones going to bother reading all that.

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    LMAO... And i thought maybe the 5' was a miss type........ WOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    couldnt you say what you want to say in less words? no ones going to bother reading all that.
    I'll try to work on that. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-Z View Post
    LMAO... And i thought maybe the 5' was a miss type........ WOW.
    Yes i'm short. So what? It's not like i'm gay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karo View Post
    Yes i'm short. So what? It's not like i'm gay!
    Maybe better for sucking cock, who knows.

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    Hey, some people are gay, some people suck cock and that shouldnt be a discussion topic, on this forum. Lashing out in such a manner, usually stems from insecurities.

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