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Thread: Proviron?? w/FINA/Test Cyp/Winn
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12-28-2002, 05:17 AM #1
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Proviron?? w/FINA/Test Cyp/Winn
I can't decide if I should add Proviron (I've never used it b4) to my FINA/Test Cyp/Winn cycle. The test should help with "FINA dick" but I'm also prone to gyno so I was going to use it as an anti-e. Do I need it or should I just have Nolva on hand just in case?
BTW, this will be my 1st cut cycle and 2nd cycle AS cycle. I'd like to loose some BF and gain some solid mass. My last cycle was:
Wk 1-2 25mg DBOL
Wk 3-4 30 mg DBOL
Wk 1-10 400mg Test Eth.
Wk 13-15 Clomid
I gained 47lbs. off this! I was 5'11, 168lb @ 12% BF B4 now I'm 214lbs @14% BF now. I've kept all of it so far. I ate between 4.5k-5k cals., 400g. protein, 800g. carbs. and took creatine, milk thisle, vanadyl sulfate, anti ox. and a multi-v everyday. My strength gains were amazing to say the least! Anyway my cut cycle will look like this:
Wk 1-8 Tren . 75mg EOD
Wk 1-8 Winn. 50mg ED
Wk 1-8 Test Cyp. 250mg or 500mg ( I can't decide which)
Wk 1-8 Proviron 25 mg. ED (or Nolva just in case?)
Wk 11-13 Clomid
Again my question. Should I add the Proviron or not?
Also fire away at what you think of my cycle!
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12-28-2002, 08:29 AM #2
I would, but I would run it 1-12/14 instead of 1-8. I'm gonna run it in my next cycle.
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12-28-2002, 09:59 AM #3
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Proviron
Thanks. I've got 80 tabs.so I'll try it form start through Clomid.
Do you think Test Cyp. will be o.k. for this cycle. I just wanted to change tests since I ran Eth. on my first cycle. But I've also heard that Eth. is better in a cut cycle as far as water retention. What do you think?
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12-28-2002, 11:00 AM #4
I'd run this...
Wk 1-8 Tren . 75mg EOD
Wk 1-8 Winn. 50mg ED
Wk 1-8 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Wk 1-8 Proviron 50mg ED (you might be able to get by on 25mg, but most people use 50)
Wk 9-11 Clomid
Test prop is a better choice since you're gonna inject the fina EOD you might as well inject prop with it, it will also cause less water retention. Proviron and Winny both reduce SHBG meaning you will have more free test in your system which will lead to greater gains. 8 weeks of Winny can get harsh on the liver so make sure you get some milk thistle or tyler's liver detox, preferably the latter.
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12-28-2002, 11:04 AM #5
I like NJ' suggestion. 8 weeks should be plenty for your 2nd cycle. I'm gonna run 50mg ed for my entire cycle in march. I love test cyp, but I have only done the human grade gear from upjohn-- goood gear!!!!!!!! I have never run eth, but my next cycle I'm planning on running it for 10-12 weeks. I like what I have read about eth, and I really like what I have seen with cyp.
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