just starting need help

**Fillyblunts** · 09-09-2009, 04:04 PM

ive been lifting/training on and off for the past 6 years or so and ive been researching some stuff to get on my first cycle and im trying to find something that would be the best for mostly weight loss and to help build strength. ive been looking at anvar for its weight loss characteristics but id like an experienced persons advice

**c-Z** · 09-09-2009, 04:13 PM

Lets start with some stats...

age?
height?
weight?
bf?
goals?

**fresh31** · 09-09-2009, 04:18 PM

best for weight loss, is diet and cardio.
stats please

**redz** · 09-09-2009, 04:19 PM

Steroids arent the answer, hit the diet section and up the cardio.

**Fillyblunts** · 09-10-2009, 11:16 AM

21 y/o
6ft 2
265
dont exactly know bf but in feb it was 28%
goals are basically to lose as much body fat as possible but id like to get to about 15-20% bf while gaining more muscle mass

**marcus300** · 09-10-2009, 11:19 AM

Pls read AAS: Things to consider before starting a first cycle (Great Read)

**Mooseman33** · 09-10-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by fresh31

best for weight loss, is diet and cardio.
stats please

this is all u need bro...

no juice for u.

***D7M*** · 09-10-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Fillyblunts

21 y/o
6ft 2
265
dont exactly know bf but in feb it was 28%
goals are basically to lose as much body fat as possible but id like to get to about 15-20% bf while gaining more muscle mass

Head over to the diet section, get that straightened out.

Start hitting the cardio hard, and you'll see that fat start melting off.

Don't even worry about the steroids yet

**ninesecz** · 09-10-2009, 12:23 PM

Yeh I have q feeling with a screen name like Philly Blunts this young man like to get HIGH!!!

**Fillyblunts** · 09-11-2009, 10:08 PM

thanks guys for all the imput ill be sure to get on the cardio and dieting now but what would be the ideal stats before i start on the roids??

**ranging1** · 09-11-2009, 10:11 PM

IMO the minimum would be
below 15% bf
bench press ur bodyweight, squat 1.2 times ur bodyweight, deadlift, 1.5 times ur bodyweight
some people may think ur BF needs to be lower then that

**ninesecz** · 09-12-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by ranging1

IMO the minimum would be
below 15% bf
bench press ur bodyweight, squat 1.2 times ur bodyweight, deadlift, 1.5 times ur bodyweight
some people may think ur BF needs to be lower then that

Where did you get these interesting numbers from?