Cycle and PCT - last comments please

[Berserker88]

Hey guys, heres my proposed cycle (still need a few PCT things) which ill be starting in a few weeks time. Just want to make sure everything is right.

Cycle

weeks 1-4 - Dbol 40mg/day
weeks 1-12 - Test-E 500mg/week
weeks 1-12 - HCG 125ui 2-3x/week (cant decide on times per week)

on cycle estrogen control - Arimidex (if required)


PCT (weeks 1/2/3/4)

Genox (nolva) - 40/20/20/20
Clomiphene - 50/50/50/50


Other Info
Weight 106kg
Height 6'2"
BF approx 14-15%
NOT a bodybuilder - training for strength.
This is my first cycle


Guess my main questions are -

HCG - dosage and should i use 2 or 3x a week?

Arimi - should I just use it from the start? My other idea was only use if i must on cycle then use in PCT.

PCT week 1/2 - can I get away with 'standard' clo/nolva doses from week 2 or should I keep them higher in week 2 (same dose as week 1?)


Thanks in advance for any input.

(updated with a few small changes 14/9)

[D7M]

Hey guys, heres my proposed cycle (still need a few PCT things) which ill be starting in a few weeks time. Just want to make sure everything is right.

Cycle

weeks 1-4 - Dbol 40mg/day
weeks 1-12 - Test-E 400mg/week
weeks 1-12 - HCG 125ui 2-3x/week (cant decide on times per week)

on cycle estrogen control - Arimidex (thinking about doing .25 eod from start)


PCT (weeks 1/2/3/4)

Genox (nolva) - 40/20/20/20
Clomiphene - 100/50/50/50


Other Info
Weight 105.5kg
Height 6'2"
BF approx 14-15%
NOT a bodybuilder - training for strength.
This is my first cycle


Guess my main questions are -

HCG - dosage and should i use 2 or 3x a week?

I'd personally shoot the HCG 250iu's E3D. But 125ius is fine.

Here's Swifto's HCG thread:
HCG - How important is it?

Arimi - should I just use it from the start? My other idea was only use if i must on cycle then use in PCT.

I'd keep it on hand, and only run it on cycle if needed.

PCT week 1/2 - can I get away with 'standard' clo/nolva doses from week 2 or should I keep them higher in week 2 (same dose as week 1?)

your pct doses are fine. If anything you can get away with clomid at 50mg the first week, and probably have less sides.

Thanks in advance for any input.

^bolds above.

how old are you?

cycle looks fine.

[RANA]

^bolds above.

how old are you?

cycle looks fine.

^^^^I agree with what he posted for you^^^^

[workoutfreak078]

Hey guys, heres my proposed cycle (still need a few PCT things) which ill be starting in a few weeks time. Just want to make sure everything is right.

Cycle

weeks 1-4 - Dbol 40mg/day
weeks 1-12 - Test-E 400mg/week
weeks 1-12 - HCG 125ui 2-3x/week (cant decide on times per week)

on cycle estrogen control - Arimidex (thinking about doing .25 eod from start)


PCT (weeks 1/2/3/4)

Genox (nolva) - 40/20/20/20
Clomiphene - 100/50/50/50


Other Info
Weight 105.5kg
Height 6'2"
BF approx 14-15%
NOT a bodybuilder - training for strength.
This is my first cycle


Guess my main questions are -

HCG - dosage and should i use 2 or 3x a week?

Arimi - should I just use it from the start? My other idea was only use if i must on cycle then use in PCT.

PCT week 1/2 - can I get away with 'standard' clo/nolva doses from week 2 or should I keep them higher in week 2 (same dose as week 1?)


Thanks in advance for any input.

If it's your first cycle I would drop the Dbol to 30mg ED and extend it to 5 weeks. You can take 400mg of Test E, but 500mg would be even better if you can get a hold of it. Also, take D7M's PCT advice.

[Berserker88]

^bolds above.

how old are you?

cycle looks fine.

Cant believe I forgot to put age hah! 23, 24 in 1 month.

Thanks a lot for the input. Im glad what you said about the clomid and also its f'ing expensive in aus!

Ive read through Swifto's HCG posts a few times, reason I asked about the dosage is because he said -

I suggest HCG be used at 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly (as per Dr.Crisler's advice) with an AI throughout the cycle. This will maintain testicular size and function and prevent testicular dysfunction.

I was hoping I could get away with 125ui 2x. Mite do 125-200 3x. The quote is also was why I asked about the arimi on cycle, as its recommended but I have read multiple times an AI on cycle can slow gains.

^^^^I agree with what he posted for you^^^^

Thanks.

If it's your first cycle I would drop the Dbol to 30mg ED and extend it to 5 weeks. You can take 400mg of Test E, but 500mg would be even better if you can get a hold of it. Also, take D7M's PCT advice.

Thanks for the input - I was considering 30mg of d-bol. I have thought about 500mg test, but i figured i'd start at 400 and work my way up. I'll get great gains on 400 anyway right? not like its going to be a massive diff between 400 and 500? I already have ahold of enough test to do 1g a week if i wanted to so thats not an issue :P

What's other peoples opinion on changing dbol to 30 and upping test to 500?

[RANA]

Cant believe I forgot to put age hah! 23, 24 in 1 month.

Thanks a lot for the input. Im glad what you said about the clomid and also its f'ing expensive in aus!

Ive read through Swifto's HCG posts a few times, reason I asked about the dosage is because he said -

I suggest HCG be used at 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly (as per Dr.Crisler's advice) with an AI throughout the cycle. This will maintain testicular size and function and prevent testicular dysfunction.

I was hoping I could get away with 125ui 2x. Mite do 125-200 3x. The quote is also was why I asked about the arimi on cycle, as its recommended but I have read multiple times an AI on cycle can slow gains.



Thanks.



Thanks for the input - I was considering 30mg of d-bol. I have thought about 500mg test, but i figured i'd start at 400 and work my way up. I'll get great gains on 400 anyway right? not like its going to be a massive diff between 400 and 500? I already have ahold of enough test to do 1g a week if i wanted to so thats not an issue :P

What's other peoples opinion on changing dbol to 30 and upping test to 500?

I guess it depends if your test is 250 or 200 it can make dosage easier (meaning pulling it out of the syringe) I would personally stick with 40mg ed of dbol and 500mg PW.

[Berserker88]

I guess it depends if your test is 250 or 200 it can make dosage easier (meaning pulling it out of the syringe) I would personally stick with 40mg ed of dbol and 500mg PW.

Its 250mg...

[RANA]

Might as well do 500mg

[Berserker88]

Might as well do 500mg

Yeh guess so... thanks for the help.