Few questions for future second cycle

[HustlerBrah]

Hey guys how's it going, just had a few questions regarding the second cycle

~cycles go time on= time off, lets say i've just completed an 8 week cycle of d-bol/prop and have 4 weeks of pct, do i include the 4 weeks of pct as time off or do i start 8 weeks fresh from the time pct finishes?

~i'm hoping for a second cycle mainly to be heading towards leaning up.

1-12 Test-Eth 500mg divided into 2 250mg shots, monday and thursdays
1-12 EQ 500mg divided into 2 250 mg shots, monday and thursdays
8-12 25mg daily (oral tablets) Stanazolol

PCT will look like this

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clen start off 40, build to 120 maximum of 2 weeks on clen, followed by 2 weeks off then 2 weeks back on.

Any tips/ better cycles that head better towards leaning out?

Thanks again guys!

[amcon]

not really sure on the whole cycle but i would like to get closer to 3000 posts... so i think that the eq should be run longer like 14 - 16 weeks

what is your goal with this cycle?

[D7M]

stats?
age?
height?
weight?
bf?

the general rule is time on + pct = time off. This is just a general rule, unless blood work comes back sooner, showing everything being normal.

you could benefit from adding some clomid into that pct.

I'll get more specific about the cycle after your stats.

[Knockout_Power]

Asmentionned, you will have to run the cycle out longer to make use of the EQ. Minimum 14 weeks I would say. And with that being said, you may want a slightly more agressive PCT. Add clomid methinks.

[HustlerBrah]

age: 23
height: 1-2 cm off 6'
weight: 198 pounds ( 90 kg )
bf: approximately 15%

of course i'll naturally try get to 12%



you'd add clomid in? i'll look into it, quiet pricey from my supplier but i'll definently read more into it.

[workoutfreak078]

Hey guys how's it going, just had a few questions regarding the second cycle

~cycles go time on= time off, lets say i've just completed an 8 week cycle of d-bol/prop and have 4 weeks of pct, do i include the 4 weeks of pct as time off or do i start 8 weeks fresh from the time pct finishes?

~i'm hoping for a second cycle mainly to be heading towards leaning up.

1-12 Test-Eth 500mg divided into 2 250mg shots, monday and thursdays
1-12 EQ 500mg divided into 2 250 mg shots, monday and thursdays
8-12 25mg daily (oral tablets) Stanazolol

PCT will look like this

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clen start off 40, build to 120 maximum of 2 weeks on clen, followed by 2 weeks off then 2 weeks back on.

Any tips/ better cycles that head better towards leaning out?

Thanks again guys!

EQ should be bumped to 600mg and taken 3x a week, unless you want to split 500mg 3x a week. Definitely extend the EQ a few more weeks. If you can, get more Test E and extend that to 16 weeks, and the EQ to 15 weeks. Most people start to see results on EQ around week 8 - 10, so you wouldn't be getting much out of 12 weeks.

[D7M]

agreed on the EQ, if you use it.

the winny dose is a bit low as well. Is it oral winny? remember the liver will destroy about 20% of the oral will get destroyed by the liver, so dose accordingly.

[HustlerBrah]

Hmmmm

I may drop the EQ in that case being that it's quiet pricey from my supplier as it is,

Advice taken:
16 weeks of test-e 500mg weekly
Add clomid into pct
upp the dose of the oral winny to about 50mg because 10mg will be destroyed via the liver.

i'll have a browse/search around for other compounds i may want to add.

What about cytomel for the last 2 weeks on the tesT?

[D7M]

i'll have a browse/search around for other compounds i may want to add.

if your goals are just to lean up a bit and some some muscle,

that can easily be done on a test cycle.

get that diet/cardio squared away.

imo, really, no need to go adding more and more drugs into the mix at this point.

[HustlerBrah]

if your goals are just to lean up a bit and some some muscle,

that can easily be done on a test cycle.

get that diet/cardio squared away.

imo, really, no need to go adding more and more drugs into the mix at this point.

Great point man, thanks on all the input from this last post and having a look through some members proposed cycles i'll most likely be doing this

1-16 Test-Eth 500mg divided into 2 doses monday and thursdays
12-16 Winstrol tablets at 50mg a day.
18-22 Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/100 Clen with a build up to 120 over 2 weeks.

how's that guys?

thanks again.

[D7M]

I'd run the clomid 50/50/50/50.

other than that, looks fine to me.

[amcon]

if your goals are just to lean up a bit and some some muscle,

that can easily be done on a test cycle.

get that diet/cardio squared away.

imo, really, no need to go adding more and more drugs into the mix at this point.

yep yep!!!

[MMArmour]

EQ should be bumped to 600mg and taken 3x a week, unless you want to split 500mg 3x a week. Definitely extend the EQ a few more weeks. If you can, get more Test E and extend that to 16 weeks, and the EQ to 15 weeks. Most people start to see results on EQ around week 8 - 10, so you wouldn't be getting much out of 12 weeks.

if you decided to run EQ it is entirely unnecessary to inj 3x week. e3.5d with your test e is fine.