Question about the 1st cycle with EQ

[Obselite]

To preface this thread, I have read the stickies and have had many of my questions answered. However, I am left with a few others.

Primarily:
1) Being my first cycle, it sounds as though adding test into my cycle is a good idea. I assume injectable is the best route to go, but how useful are oral test pills? I haven't been able to find an injectable form that I feel comfortable purchasing but the pills are pretty easy to find.
2) I read the posts about spotting fakes and such, but am not sure how affective this may be when you buy pre-mixed solutions. The source I have pre-mixes the EQ with grapeseed oil and sells it in that form. Are there any inherent problems with this practice? Anything I need to look for before buying? I am somewhat weary of the "pre-mix" idea as I can't be 100% sure of the sterilization of the product, but I know a few others who have used this same source with great results...I just am looking for any tips or cautions.
3) Dosage: I found that the suggested dosage is 600mg/week for men...but I don't want to go overboard with my first cycle and was advised that 400mg/week would be better for me (I am 6' tall, 180#). Any truth to this or should I look for a higher dose? The dosage I am getting comes with 3 10cc vials, 200mg/cc. I was instructed to take 1cc twice a week.
4) My last question deals with pricing, but I am not sure of the rules regarding this. The "kit" I am looking into comes with a 12 week cycle of EQ along with syringes and a full Nolvadex PCT cycle (I imagine it is around 1800mg total but am awaiting verification on that). What is a relatively standard price for a setup like this? If this question violates any rules, please let me know and I will edit it accordingly.

I realize that a lot of noobs come in here and ask these questions, but I just want to make sure my first attempt at this is useful and safe. I appreciate the time that any of you take to read and answer my questions.

[redz]

Test should be the base for any cycle. Also EQ doesnt get a very good reputation on this board. No one seems to like it. I may try it in a future bulking cycle just to add to my appetite.EQ is so week that anything less than 600mg is a complete waste. Can`t talk pricing on here either plus Nolva only is a weak pct. Looks like you are not close to ready yet.

[Obselite]

I only proposed EQ based on what I read while researching and reading this: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199802
I saw this guide: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894
But it seemed like something that would be nearly impossible for a first-time user to collect without getting a fake or something.

Thanks for your reply.

[redz]

Test only is best for a first cycle but you really need to do more research before going forward.

[Obselite]

I agree with you.
I don't plan to start this for a month or so. I have just started a strict diet and workout process that I am trying to get under control right now.

I am trying to get things in order for when I am ready to move forward, and haven't had much luck finding anything substantial aside from these boards. Furthermore, my intent is to do a first cycle containing only test, which is where my first question (oral vs. injectable test) came into play. I can see now that my question was poorly expressed, so that was my own fault for making it unclear. I just wanted to be sure that was the best route to take. For a test-only first cycle, would it make much difference or is it most beneficial to get injectable?

[redz]

Injectable is superior in every way. Oral is very tough on the liver and can`t be run for too long. Test Enanthate or Test Cyponate is what you want to research.

[Obselite]

I figured that was the case. I know oral medications have more damaging causes to the liver that something that only has to be processed once. Thanks for the help.
I noticed that my last post may have borderline "fished" for a steroid source, so I am going to remove it.

On another note, since Testosterone is a (natural) steroid, I imagine it falls under the same rules as the other products as far as asking where to get them, right?

[redz]

Yeah basically can`t ask for any help finding anything with one exception. PCT products can be purchased legally through the banner int he top right corner. ar-r.com

[Obselite]

That's where I have been looking. Thanks!
Looks like I have a lot more research to do before getting into anything.

I will be on the lookout for some Testosterone and will do that with PCT for my first cycle in about a month. My goals with this are to gain a lean, cut muscle. My frame wouldn't be good for bulkiness and I doubt I could get to that point anyways. With that in mind, it sounds like Clen is a great fat burner but is used as a PCT, right? Does that mean it shouldn't be paired with Testosterone? Would there be any problems with using them together? Before hand, I will try to get my diet worked on by posting it up here in the diet section. Also should probably have my workout checked and critiqued. Meanwhile, I will research more and get a safe setup ready.

Thanks again for your help.

[Knockout_Power]

Diet is the best way to get lean. None of the compounds associated with fatloss are something that a beginner should even consider. If your diet is clean while on cycle, you will drop fat as you will have more muscle to use extra calories. Sounds like you are not doing a bulk so your diet should reflect this. Save the Clen during PCT and see how your body reacts to the Test.

Good luck, do your reading and stay safe...

KP

[tronics]

im not sure if you meant clen to be used as the pct by itself and just incase thats what you meant no its used for its anti catabolic properties...

nolva and clomid should be used as the pct and clen can be added to try and preserve muscle..