should i be concerned for a friend?

**Nobuddy** · 09-16-2009, 04:09 PM

ok, first lemme say i do NOT know nearly as much as some of the vets on these sites and do NOT consider myself qualified to give advice. however, i am ALL my friends have - they do NOT do research and they WILL run gear, so i am the ONLY thing that stops them from doing really stupid shit like running a Winny only (no Test at all) for a 1st cycle and i am the ONLY person who's ever used the word "Pee See Tee" around them lol. i'm not as good as they need, but w/o me they'd b fukt.

i have a REALLY GOOD friend that deserves gear, he's not really old enough (23) but his diet is great and he's been training HARD for 2 solid years. he's about 6'1 195 with really low BF due to good genetics and lots of jumpin rope.

i told him most people say to run Test only, as a first. but i told him the only reason, that i'm aware of, for this is so that a noob can determine which substances affect him/her in which ways. i told him i wouldn't worry too much, if he wanted to do a small stack and that is what he opted for. however, now i am reading that it is a BAD idea for a noob (especially a young one) to run Deca .

what is the reason for this? have i put him at risk? should he drop the Deca? he won't like the idea, but if i have a convincing argument, he will drop it.

i got him going really light, even though he's a decent sized guy - 500mg Test Blend & 400mg Deca per week, split into 3 separate pokes.

thank you.

**redz** · 09-16-2009, 04:13 PM

Deca can lead to many other side effects like the dreaded deca dick. Also there is the chance of lactating nipples too. On top of that recovery from deca is much tougher than test alone. HCG should be incorporated into a deca cycle to speed up the recovery.

**Nobuddy** · 09-16-2009, 04:19 PM

yea, i made him get some HCG for recovery, Clomid for PCT, and some Nolva to keep on hand just for emergency. the more i read, the more i think i'll have him run the Nolva with the HCG (which we're not starting til the last two weeks) to counter any Aromizitation from the increased natty levels. right?

i personally LOVE deca and do not plan on ever spending much time "off" again, but i'm ALOT older than him and dying early is pretty common in my family, i just don't want to eff him up cuz he's a young buck with the world ahead of him.

but there's not something particularly risky about 23yr old noobs and Deca?

EDIT TO ADD - neither of us are worried about Deca-Dick, he doesn't have a GF anymore and my wife would prolly appreciate the break..... i'm a FN animal LOL

**redz** · 09-16-2009, 04:29 PM

i personally LOVE deca and do not plan on ever spending much time "off" again, but i'm ALOT older than him and dying early is pretty common in my family, i just don't want to eff him up cuz he's a young buck with the world ahead of him.

That is a horrible statement, why not take care of yourself and cycle safely and properly yourself. You should want to live a long life not die young.