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Thread: some thoughts? var' & ACE; minor help?

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    some thoughts? var' & ACE; minor help?

    hey everyone, im new here..i've been coming to the sight for 2 years or so. just never actually subscribed. but heres my secnario. ive been lifting for around 4 years. currently ive only ran an Var' only cycle @ 60mg ed, 8 weeks. followed by PCT of course. but this was a couple years ago, gained about 7 lbs, kept 6 or so haha.
    so now im in the military and i want to run another cycle, i just cant have it obvious or effect my cardio, ive been researching for the past 8 months as to do something lean again and ive come down to these options.

    1: 100 mg tren ACE ONLY (made my mind, no test) for 5 weeks. followed by pct of course or.
    2: 60 mg again of var' ONLY same cycle. clomid followed & hcg. proper pct.


    again my purpose is not to gain any weight, i don t really care how my body looks, im mainly looking to get stronger. and leaner. im just unsure for some reason about this "tren cough" ive heard and cardio vascular exercise i have to do daily. so give me some feed back if you dont mind as to which is best. im leaning towards the Var again being as though i dont know how i'll react to the ACE. thanks and let me know whatever your opinions may be.
    Last edited by zac0890; 09-17-2009 at 01:42 PM.

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    Research would have advised anyone who relies on a lot of cardiovascular endurance to possibly avoid Tren... its right in the profiles section. I really dont think doing both of those without Test is a great idea. You can run Test without getting massive.

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    That would be an awful stack without endogenous testosterone...

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    Hell yeah.. No way in hell would I do that stack... Wheres test?

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    8 months of research, but you're considering a tren only cycle and cardio is a concern of yours? out of your choices I would say var followed by a proper pct, but the pct listed after your var cycle would not be my choice for pct. you need more accurate and thorough research.

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    A good diet with some test and you can get strong and lean at the same time. Tren by itself would be a bad choice.

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