Tren Enthanate and Test cycle, help.

**R dog** · 09-19-2009, 03:39 PM

Just wondering if anyone could answer me this Q. Im 165 pd's small % 0f body fat and looking for muscle gains, what kind of weekly or daily doses should a guy do for addaquite increases. Or is 250 mg of test a week and 200 mg of tren a week good enough for 12 week cycle. thanks

**the big 1** · 09-19-2009, 03:41 PM

how old r u?
how long u been training?

**R dog** · 09-19-2009, 03:46 PM

25 years old working out for the last 6 months straight. Off and on before that and this will be my first cycle.

**gymguy30** · 09-19-2009, 03:50 PM

up the test to 500mg/wk split into 2 injections/wk, drop the tren . Test only for your first cycle is plenty. Again test is the base of any cycle and you want to see how you respond to it.

**stpete** · 09-19-2009, 04:00 PM

You need to do more than 6 months worth of training before embarking on a cycle. Plus, i think your diet needs to improve. Do you know what pct is and which route you would go if you were to use?

**Ernst** · 09-19-2009, 04:06 PM

height?
165 sounds light, but I guess that really depends on how tall you are.

bodyfat %?
You said small % bodyfat? What exactly do you mean? Do you have a six pack or a little gut?

pct knowledge?
This part may be even more important than the cycle.

I agree with stpete, with only 6 months of regular training I don't think it's really AAS time yet.

Tren has no place in a first cycle.

What does your diet look like?

**PRAMANIS** · 09-19-2009, 05:06 PM

Listen to gymguy30 bro, Test E injection of 250mg Monday morning and then again Thursday evening for 10 to 12 weeks thats it no more no less. Eat clean good quality food.....alot of it......spread out throughout the day. Do not try Tren .....wait a couple of years.....the sides are crazy.....trust me!

**hankdiesel** · 09-19-2009, 05:33 PM

Post your diet and exercise program in detail for us to evaluate.

**PC650** · 09-19-2009, 05:38 PM

dude your not even ready too take creatine let alone steroids haha 3 years minimum for your first cycle, you need to know how too work out first of all. and six months isnt gonna get you there

**1bigun11** · 09-20-2009, 04:49 PM

I'm not flaming you bro but I dont think you have taken it as far as you can go naturally yet. You will thank yourself later, and get much bigger and stronger in the end, if you learn how to train and diet naturally, based on how your own body responds to things. Learn what makes you tick and how you personally respond to carbs, fats, proteins, heavy power training, lighter pump-style training. How many times per week workouts, etc. There is so much more to this sport than roids. And you can get really, really big and strong without them once you learn what you are doing.