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    Ok I'm about to run an anavar only cycle but...

    I'm thinking of just running some test e too..

    Think that's a little much? I have 250, 10mg anavars, and test-e.

    Obviously I'll run test-e for 12wks, 500mg a week (250mg every 3.5 days), but how should I add in the anavar , or should I?

    Any advice is appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaders4 View Post
    I'm thinking of just running some test e too..

    Think that's a little much? I have 250, 10mg anavars, and test-e.

    Obviously I'll run test-e for 12wks, 500mg a week (250mg every 3.5 days), but how should I add in the anavar , or should I?

    Any advice is appreciated.
    uhm,

    weeks 1-12 test-e 500mg
    weeks 8-14 anavar 50 mgs/day

    start PCT day after anavar is done

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    weeks 1-12 test-e 500mg
    weeks 8-14 anavar 50 mgs/day

    start PCT day after anavar is done
    That would be a pretty good way to do it.....

    Is this a first cycle? what do you have planed for pct?

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    K.. I hope I can make some killer gains with this cycle, it's my first one too!

    If I keep 15lbs I'll be *extremely* pleased.

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    What are your current stats and make sure you have pct lined up what are you going to use for pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Man View Post
    uhm,

    weeks 1-12 test-e 500mg
    weeks 8-14 anavar 50 mgs/day

    start PCT day after anavar is done
    Solid advice.

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    with a well planned diet you should be able to gain and keep more than 15 lbs for a first cycle. Id omit anavar as its somewhat usless and destroys cholesterol levels. Just kickstart with dbol and run the test imho

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    I've posted my stats quite a few times, figured some of the older members might remember but to be honest you guys get killed with these type of threads all the time.

    29yrs old
    6ft 190lbs
    12% bf (I have abs)

    PCT (I actually got my PCT first, before I even had my gear) will be nolva/clomid

    I also have arimidex on hand too JIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary View Post
    with a well planned diet you should be able to gain and keep more than 15 lbs for a first cycle. Id omit anavar as its somewhat usless and destroys cholesterol levels. Just kickstart with dbol and run the test imho

    I already bought the anavar and as you know, it wasn't cheap.


    Here's my diet:
    1: 8 egg whites, 2 cups oats
    2: 2 cans of tuna
    3: Chicken
    4: 50g chicken 1/2 cup brown rice
    5: 97% lean beef and potatoes
    6: 25g chicken and broccoli
    7: casein shake

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    Diet looks alright assuming the portions are big. I would add in something like salad with olive oil dressing in there. You definitely need some extra vegies.

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    Yeah the diet is working, I used to weigh 150lbs. I have a good appetite but I'm an ectomorph. I'm just very lean by genetics.

    However I was eating the wrong foods, skipping breakfast, not getting enough protein etc.

    I've been at 190 for a while now, I was actually a little more but I lost some of my 'fat'

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    not lecturing you man, youll do what you do anyhow. But imo anavar is expensive and not worth running. If your looking for size and want to take advantage of your first cycle, dbol is a better choice. You could always save anavar for a cutting cyle. Either way good luck bro

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    I think the quality of anavar gains should be better than dbol . I have nothing against dbol but most of the gains are water weight.

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    dbol produces better gains its just that it aromatizes easily thus water weight as well. Not like its all water ...but not tryin to steal this thread lol

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    hmm.. Maybe I'll run the test-e alone, and save the anavar for the summer

    BTW: 2jz I'm very open to experienced users opinions.

    Also, do you have a supra or something else with a 2jz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Diet looks alright assuming the portions are big. I would add in something like salad with olive oil dressing in there. You definitely need some extra vegies.
    Redz, I usually eat a chicken salad once a day with an extra helping of chicken.

    The salad has all the normal veggies, and I use oil/vinegar as my dressing.

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    Thats good the extra vegies help keep your digestive system working right. Keep us posted on the progress once you get going.

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    yes i own a supra with a 2jz, check the ar lounge i have a pic of it posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary View Post
    yes i own a supra with a 2jz, check the ar lounge i have a pic of it posted
    Right on! Love that car man..

    I almost bought a SC300 with a 2JZ making 650rwhp..

    I ended up getting a B5 S4 stage 3 (550hp) but sold it, now I'm thinking about getting an E60 M5.

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    nice work. yeah i appreciate anything fast. also are you worreid about dht sides? such as hairloss? Anavar will do that

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    Anavar will do that
    Almost any steroid can cause this and the degree in which it does largely varies based on genetic disposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary View Post
    nice work. yeah i appreciate anything fast. also are you worreid about dht sides? such as hairloss? Anavar will do that
    I've got a shit ton of propecia, hopefully that helps.

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    propecia or proscar same drug... wont help agains dht derivitaves like winny or anavar ... they will combat agains dht conversions like dbol ...something i didnt know before. Dht derivatives will reak their havoc no matter what. so if your prone to hairloss leave them alone. d bol is a test derivative oral

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaders4 View Post
    I'm thinking of just running some test e too..

    Think that's a little much? I have 250, 10mg anavars, and test-e.

    Obviously I'll run test-e for 12wks, 500mg a week (250mg every 3.5 days), but how should I add in the anavar , or should I?

    Any advice is appreciated.
    40-60mg daily for 8-10 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2jz_calgary View Post
    with a well planned diet you should be able to gain and keep more than 15 lbs for a first cycle. Id omit anavar as its somewhat usless and destroys cholesterol levels. Just kickstart with dbol and run the test imho
    Same thing I was gonna say.

    Trash the anavar , just cause its expensive doesn't mean its not still useless.
    ESPECIALLY when you're gonna be running test e. 90% of the gains and sides you get will be from the test. I've ran solo cycles of anavar before because I was curious to see how it compares on its own, and its a fvckn joke, really.

    You need a stronger compound. Even superdrol would be wayyy stronger and wayyy better results for wayyy cheaper. Or yeh d-bol like calgary said..

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    Maybe I'll just get rid of the anavar ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaders4 View Post
    Maybe I'll just get rid of the anavar...
    I'll take it

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