second cycle?

[ranging1]

was doing some research and wanted opinions, and suggestions

in few months(prob after summer,) would like to start my second cycle and not to sure what to use?

goals are to bulk up and put on size and strength

really want the size BUT im abit of an addict for strength, so id like to gain ASMUCH strength as possible

anyways

i was thinking 14 week cycle
weeks 1-14 test eth/cyp 750mg
weeks 2-13 tren eth 400mg
weeks 1-4 anadrol 150mgs daily
weeks 1-14 equipose <---- not to sure

reasons behind cycle are, testerome since its just an amazing compound and obviously i need it in my cycle for both sex drive, muscle building etc

anadrol becuase ive read up on BIG strength gain abilities, and i didnt really like dianabols bloat, plus its short active life annoyed me

equipose is purely for appetite, i find it hard eating 4500-5000 calories everday, so the eq would really help

the trenbelone is purely for strength, ive read up amazingly lean muscle gains and HUGE strength gains on trenbelone (strength is what i am really looking for)

if ur wondering why i didnt opt for deca, its becuase ive heard, read and seen more size gains, and weight gains on deca, rather then strength, unless ive been mislead?

opinions/ suggestions

[D7M]

Imo, you don't need all those compounds for your second run.

play it safe, and you'll have plenty of years ahead of you to experiment with them.

you've been around long enough to know most people won't recommend tren on a second cycle....especially tren e. If you can't deal with the sides on tren e, it will take at least two weeks to clear your system.

I'd think about keeping your test dose about the same as your last cycle, and throwing in the drol (100mg/day is good dose)...you will see really good strength gains with drol.

[ranging1]

Imo, you don't need all those compounds for your second run.

play it safe, and you'll have plenty of years ahead of you to experiment with them.

you've been around long enough to know most people won't recommend tren on a second cycle....especially tren e. If you can't deal with the sides on tren e, it will take at least two weeks to clear your system.

I'd think about keeping your test dose about the same as your last cycle, and throwing in the drol (100mg/day is good dose)...you will see really good strength gains with drol.

thanks mate

yes ive read ALOT of people saying tren isnt the best idea for second cycle

however im not really keen on using deca since it seems to be more ideal for size then anything else

as for tren, i can only get the ethanthate version, so thats why i went for the longer ester

also i cant get drol, im from australia

[stpete]

750mgs of test is high enough. Like D7 said, go with the drol. Tren e's one powerful mofo and i don't recommend it either.

[ranging1]

750mgs of test is high enough. Like D7 said, go with the drol. Tren e's one powerful mofo and i don't recommend it either.

lol I CANT GET DROL, so its not something i can option for

my first cycle was neally (on it now) 600mg of test weekly

so id liek my second cycle to be more then just 750mg of test, i really like test but the water retention im not the biggest fan of

so id liek to use another compound

suggestions?

[rockinred]

Seriosly, it sounds like you have made up your mind no matter what. I still say drop the Tren this round and hold on to it. Run the Test/EQ/drol... no need to go overboard. Besides that stack with EQ/drol and test is no joke. There are a lot who hate EQ, but I have found that it keeps me lower on the bloat and hard. I would run a test and tren only on your next one after this.

[ranging1]

Seriosly, it sounds like you have made up your mind no matter what. I still say drop the Tren this round and hold on to it. Run the Test/EQ/drol... no need to go overboard. Besides that stack with EQ/drol and test is no joke. There are a lot who hate EQ, but I have found that it keeps me lower on the bloat and hard. I would run a test and tren only on your next one after this.

lol thanks mate

NO i havent made up my mind lol

OMG I CANT GET DROL CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SUGGESTING IT!!!!! its making me cranky coz everyone is saying its good and i cant get it

okay so if i was to opt with

test 750mg
and equipose, whats a good dose for eq? anyone experince good gains on it? and what are its strength effects?

as for strength can some suggested another steroid apart from tren or drol

[t-gunz]

lol thanks mate

NO i havent made up my mind lol

OMG I CANT GET DROL CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SUGGESTING IT!!!!! its making me cranky coz everyone is saying its good and i cant get it

okay so if i was to opt with

test 750mg
and equipose, whats a good dose for eq? anyone experince good gains on it? and what are its strength effects?

as for strength can some suggested another steroid apart from tren or drol

lol thats gold

[rockinred]

I thought your proposed was anadrol,test,tren, and eq? Did it change.

I would run 800mgs of test and 600mgs of EQ. run them for 14 weeks and start your post 3 weeks after. Look up the half life of the compounds.. If I remember of the top of my head I quit the EQ 1 week b4 the test. so you would go 15 weeks of test.... EQ is good for stregnth too, you should have a pretty solid cycle with that.

[rockinred]

So can you get your hands on anadrol or not? If you really like stregnth...Halo is the cream of the crop and will probably even give more stregnth then tren. IT is expensive and sometimes hard to get. Sounds like you are limited on compounds through your source... how about you tell us what orals you can get your hands on for a kickstart of cycle and we can give you the best one for stregnth.

[D7M]

lol thanks mate

NO i havent made up my mind lol

OMG I CANT GET DROL CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SUGGESTING IT!!!!! its making me cranky coz everyone is saying its good and i cant get it

okay so if i was to opt with

test 750mg
and equipose, whats a good dose for eq? anyone experince good gains on it? and what are its strength effects?

as for strength can some suggested another steroid apart from tren or drol

lol...I think everyone is suggesting it, since it was in your original proposed cycle.

Anyway, I agree with Rockinred above.

[ranging1]

lol...I think everyone is suggesting it, since it was in your original proposed cycle.

Anyway, I agree with Rockinred above.

lol thanks

can someone suggest a good dosage for eq? what are people experience from gains

ive heard eq is pretty dissapointing in terms of gains, and its great for appetite

thats why i wanted to run test, eq and something for strength

suggestions? DONT DAY DROL

[tbjake34]

Cut the tren keep the test where its at. EQ is a hit or miss some ppl love it some hate it. The drol dose looks high to me 100mg/day was more then enough for me. I prefer dbol gave me a better appetite too if ur worried about bloat u cud just run an anti-e cuz drol can have some nasty sides. So in conclusion i say run test and 750mg/wk and 100mg/day of drol.

[Aizen Sosuke]

Drol=anadrol which you proposed in your first post. As far as the cycle is concerned test e/eq/anadrol and you are set. If you used 600mg a week on your first I would keep it there.

[ranging1]

Cut the tren keep the test where its at. EQ is a hit or miss some ppl love it some hate it. The drol dose looks high to me 100mg/day was more then enough for me. I prefer dbol gave me a better appetite too if ur worried about bloat u cud just run an anti-e cuz drol can have some nasty sides. So in conclusion i say run test and 750mg/wk and 100mg/day of drol.

read my above posts

I CANT GET DROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


READ PEOPLE

READDDDDDDDDDD

sUggestion on eq dose?

and any other steroids aprat from DROL?

[rockinred]

ranging... I don't know if I look dumb to you or not... drol is short for anadrol, that is what you originaly stated that you wanted to run. another slang term is A50.

I also told you to run EQ at 600mgs... Most suggest 400-600mgs and no less, and anymore you don't get better results just more sides. As everyone stated EQ can either be a waste or a good thing.. I have run it on 2 cycles b4 and I like it fine....good slow gains, and good stregnth.

[rockinred]

OP, you need to cool it if you want to get some friendly advice... don't get on and start telling people to REAADDDD... wtf. No body started suggesting that compound out of the blue. You said you were going to run it...wtf.

Also, if you REAADDDD you have a ton of advice and opinions on this thread.. I don't know what the heck is your problem. You have a dosage suggestion and explanation on EQ... you have anadrol suggestion on dosage, you have Dbol suggested and you also have HALO suggested. What more do you want and why are you acting out? Great way to present yourself to people that are trying to help you out. YOu have advice, but you are not acknowledging or probing.

[Knockout_Power]

Agreed, your question has been answered many times. I think there was a communication problem as you had Anadrol as one of your compounds in your proposed cycle and then said you couldnt get it. Did you find this out after you posted it or did you not know that Drol was anadrol?

Anyways, if test is @ 800 you will already see incredible gains on a 2nd cycle. Maybe try Tbol if you can get?

[ranging1]

lol shit sorry guys, didnt realise drol means anadrol

ma badddddd, apoligies, was getting ticked off coz everytime i read drol i instantly thought people werent reading, and just didnt bother reading the rest

thanks, my fault

okay so would yous think this is alright as a second cycle

weeks 1-4 DROL 150mg daily
1-14 test cyp 750-800mg weekly
1-14 eq 600mg weekly

[t-gunz]

let the growing begin!!!!

[scott91]

hey guys
i was just wandering are the tren ace side effects the same and as bad as the tren e ?

[D7M]

lol shit sorry guys, didnt realise drol means anadrol

ma badddddd, apoligies, was getting ticked off coz everytime i read drol i instantly thought people werent reading, and just didnt bother reading the rest

thanks, my fault

okay so would yous think this is alright as a second cycle

weeks 1-4 DROL 150mg daily
1-14 test cyp 750-800mg weekly
1-14 eq 600mg weekly

What's with the high doses on your second cycle?

You can start the drol at 100mg/day. An even more conservative approach would be to start it at 50mg/day and assess your tolerance. I personally love drol, but it gives me some wicked sides.

And I really don't see the need to go up to 800mg/wk of test on your second cycle, either. You should still be able to grow at 500-600/wk.

hey guys
i was just wandering are the tren ace side effects the same and as bad as the tren e ?

please start your own thread. Or run a search. That topic has been beaten around a hundred times already.

[ranging1]

What's with the high doses on your second cycle?

You can start the drol at 100mg/day. An even more conservative approach would be to start it at 50mg/day and assess your tolerance. I personally love drol, but it gives me some wicked sides.

And I really don't see the need to go up to 800mg/wk of test on your second cycle, either. You should still be able to grow at 500-600/wk.

didnt think they were high, since my first cycle is 600mg of test, i thought second cycle i could bump up the test by 150mg atleast, as for drol ive read 150mg seems to me the most, and since ive run 40mg of dbol in past, ive read 150mg of drol seems to be the best amount, with least sides

going for 500-600mg of test, with 50mg of drol would be a equal or weaker cycle then my first cycle, i thought second cycle u should atleast up ur dosage?

also ive seen many guys in this forum smaller and fatter then what i am running higher dosages, and many people have approved it......

please start your own thread. Or run a search. That topic has been beaten around a hundred times already.

AGREE get ur own thread bitch

[D7M]

^Just my .02. And really no need to call the guy a bitch, lol.

600mg/wk of test and 100mg/drol is a good dose, I think.

You should definitely be able to grow off that.

I don't know where people are getting this idea that each cycle has to be progressively larger: more compounds, higher doses.

So you run 800mg/wk this time. Then what, your third cycle will go up to a gram a week, then....

[ranging1]

^Just my .02. And really no need to call the guy a bitch, lol.

600mg/wk of test and 100mg/drol is a good dose, I think.

You should definitely be able to grow off that.

I don't know where people are getting this idea that each cycle has to be progressively larger: more compounds, higher doses.

So you run 800mg/wk this time. Then what, your third cycle will go up to a gram a week, then....

yea thanks mate, always good for different opinions

i thought more gear ifs requeired the BIGGER u become? since obviously u are further beyond ur genetic potenial?

lol no 3rd cycle i thought i would just run different compounds

say 600mg test
400mg deca

[Aizen Sosuke]

Completly in agreement with D7M