can i use eq with deca? is this a waste?

[exnihilo1]

I've been reading alot and don't see any cycles that mix these two? I've never cycled before so its my first. I'm thinking of test e, eq, deca, with 40mg of dbol aday for 4 weeks. I'm looking for good quality gains with little water build up.

any advice would be helpful


I'm basically going for strength and endurance

[Vitruvian-Man]

Stats??

[BBall6]

double post

[BBall6]

Yes, stats?

If you want to keep the water weight off, take a low dose of letro and swap the test e for prop and the deca for npp. You have to shoot those ED though...

[Vitruvian-Man]

Yes, stats?

If you want to keep the water weight off, take a low dose of letro and swap the test e for prop and the deca for npp. You have to shoot those ED though...

.... you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just stop..

And wait for stats before you start rambling.

[forza nuova]

if you have never cycled before,just use test only

[BBall6]

.... you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just stop..

And wait for stats before you start rambling.

I agree with the waiting for stats comment, but it is fairly common that it is more difficult to keep water weight down with longer esters plus deca if very well known for causing quite a bit of water retention. All I did was name a shorter estered version of the same hormone for what he was planning (if water weight is important to him). The letro would help with the water weight some as well along with the protecting him from estrogen and progesterone.

The only thing I have no idea about is where your comment came from and what it was in regards to...

[redz]

Sugesting someone runs letro to control bloat is straight over kill. Diet will keep that in control anyways at worst some adex. Wheres the stats?

[gymnerd]

Sugesting someone runs letro to control bloat is straight over kill. Diet will keep that in control anyways at worst some adex. Wheres the stats?

Welll I know a couple of competitive BB that use letro to keep them dry so its not unheard of I guess it just depends on the individual goals?

BTW op post your stats no one can help you without them.

[mx3]

Sugesting someone runs letro to control bloat is straight over kill. Diet will keep that in control anyways at worst some adex. Wheres the stats?

It doesn't matter what your diet looks like if your running long estered test and deca without an ai preferably adex your gonna have a good amount of bloat. I agree that letro is too strong to start with though it should be saved for gyno issues if other ai's were not sufficient not for bloat.

[WARMachine]

Yes, stats?

If you want to keep the water weight off, take a low dose of letro and swap the test e for prop and the deca for npp. You have to shoot those ED though...

Terrible advice. Letro should only be used in EXTREME cases. It is far too powerful for estrogen control. Ready my sticky for clairification.

-WAR

[WARMachine]

It doesn't matter what your diet looks like if your running long estered test and deca without an ai preferably adex your gonna have a good amount of bloat. I agree that letro is too strong to start with though it should be saved for gyno issues if other ai's were not sufficient not for bloat.

And what exactly is Letro going to do for gyno issues? Id like to hear this?

-WAR

[BBall6]

Terrible advice. Letro should only be used in EXTREME cases. It is far too powerful for estrogen control. Ready my sticky for clairification.

-WAR

Just read the sticky (nice write-up too btw)

I will admit that I did jump the gun and was assuming too much without enough facts since he hasn't posted any stats yet. I did ask for for his stats though as did many others, but yes, I will agree that it is negligent to recommend anything w/o knowing that info. I know I tend to be a little more prone to water weight and estro related sides so when I need protection from estrogen and progesterone, I usually take a very low dose of letro and I know others that do as well. If he isn't prone to that, I would still recommend as per your sticky taking the adex and something for the progesterone like caber.

[G-Force]

And what exactly is Letro going to do for gyno issues? Id like to hear this?

-WAR

well admittedly i havent been on this site for a year
but when i was Letro was all the rave for reducing gyno
i remmember seeing a sticky on it on this site
might have been pinaccle that wrote it but i cant remember?

what has changed?

where is your sticky war machine?

[chuckt12345]

And what exactly is Letro going to do for gyno issues? Id like to hear this?

-WAR

?...

[ythrashin]

If you are looking for Endurance drop the DECA and just stick with EQ. Deca makes me cramp up when I do a lot of cardio. I wouldnt do dbol either...

What are your exact goals? You a fighter , runner or something? Whats UP???

Send some stats...

[DOM6]

ok well can anyone answer the question? i would like to know also
I'm thinking of test e, eq, deca, with 40mg of dbol aday for 4 weeks. I'm looking for good quality gains with little water build up.

my stats are 520lbs 64% BF 18yrold 5'10"
my diet is Mcdonalds, burgerking, then wendys With all diet sodas and supersized EOD


Has anyone ran these two together? EQ and Deca? with a test.

[t-gunz]

ok well can anyone answer the question? i would like to know also
I'm thinking of test e, eq, deca, with 40mg of dbol aday for 4 weeks. I'm looking for good quality gains with little water build up.

my stats are 520lbs 64% BF 18yrold 5'10"
my diet is Mcdonalds, burgerking, then wendys With all diet sodas and supersized EOD


Has anyone ran these two together? EQ and Deca? with a test.

stats are amazing lol

[G-Force]

yes u can use EQ with Deca its a good stack, although u will get water build up especially with the Dbol