Second cycle

**TLrugby** · 09-25-2009, 08:58 PM

Tried 6wk var cycle (20mg 1-3wks... increased to 60mg 3-6) and noticed leaness and felt "pump" while training but often felt ache in kidneys.
Looking for a cutting cycle with good strength gains and not too much mass, also have concerns with hair loss (job requires hair) advice appreciated:

wk 1-6 sus 250
wk 1-8 primo

pct req'd?

OR

anyone heard of a primo/deca /tren stack?

Thank you in advance.

**trulbfan3** · 09-25-2009, 09:23 PM

both of those cycles suck......either run test prop at 75mg ed for 6-8 weeks or run test e or test 6 at 500 mg per week for 12 weeks...if you go w/ the long estered test run arimidex daily to keep off excess water and yes after either cycle you will need pct...also u got a lot of research to do before you should cycle...primo deca and tren is horrible and your dick will hate you or rather you will hate your dick b/c it want work....and 6 weeks of sust will be a waiste b/c it want even be getting into your system good b4 u come off of it

**juicebox450** · 09-25-2009, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by trulbfan3

both of those cycles suck......either run test prop at 75mg ed for 6-8 weeks or run test e or test 6 at 500 mg per week for 12 weeks...if you go w/ the long estered test run arimidex daily to keep off excess water and yes after either cycle you will need pct...also u got a lot of research to do before you should cycle...primo deca and tren is horrible and your dick will hate you or rather you will hate your dick b/c it want work....and 6 weeks of sust will be a waiste b/c it want even be getting into your system good b4 u come off of it

x2...............

**TLrugby** · 09-26-2009, 07:15 AM

Well said Tru. I have no real intention of the primo/deca /tren blend, just wanted to know if anyone had heard of it.
Re. test prop @ 75mg
How would this stack with primo or var?

BG · 09-26-2009, 07:23 AM

Whats your stats, if you have above 10% bf primo is a waste imo. Btter off just running test while carb cycling.

**trulbfan3** · 09-26-2009, 11:47 AM

ive never used anavar but from what ive read from other members and on the steroid profile i would say you could run prop at 75 mg ed for 8-10 weeks and stack the var in there the last 4-6 weeks at 60-80mg ed divided into two doses...but u really need to give us some stats and i would try to get as lean as possible b4 the cycle so you really see the benefit of the var

**TLrugby** · 09-26-2009, 04:53 PM

Great feedback guys, thx. Stats:

age 36
5'9
185
bf 11%
lifting for the better part of 15yrs

**TLrugby** · 09-26-2009, 07:20 PM

I suppose I should add goals as well:

increase strength
increased leaness and cut
mass is not a premium but would be ok at a moderate amount

CONCERN:
career and part-time modelling mean that I cannot afford to lose any hair.

Many thanks for the insights.

**JinNtonic** · 11-14-2009, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by TLrugby

I suppose I should add goals as well:

increase strength
increased leaness and cut
mass is not a premium but would be ok at a moderate amount

CONCERN:
career and part-time modelling mean that I cannot afford to lose any hair.

Many thanks for the insights.

I would think with these goals you dont need AAS, you just need to improve your diet & hit the gym.