What a better kickstart

[liftw8t]

Whats a better kickstart for 4 weeks

Dbol :25-50 mg ED
Anadrol 50-100mg ED
Test Prop 50-75 mg ED

So far feedback on each is:

Dbol: "lots of water retention", "gyno in a bottle", "good on strength gains"
Anadrol: "great on strength gains", "harsh on the liver", "less water retention than dbol"
Prop: actually havent asked about this as a kickstart

[CHUCKYthentic]

you re gonna get mixed reviews on this one

what is your proposed cycle?
goals of cycle?

age
height
weight
bf%

[liftw8t]

Oh really just hypathetical but it would be something like:

1) Goal: Bulk
2) Cycle: Test E 500mgx 12wk, Deca 400mgx 12wk, and kickstart of some sort

[CHUCKYthentic]

IMO depends on your preference with orals such as dbol and drol. some like em some hate em

if it were me, depending on my desired goals id go with prop or drol. i hate dbol

[juicebox450]

alota different opinions on this...... i belive most will tell u prop is the best for kickstart..... but i like dbol personally.......@50mgs/day

[TITANIUM]

Anadrol for the kicker.IMO

Test E @ 500 mgs wk.

Test E would be best I think, unless you don't mind pinning all the time.

If you are going to run deca , then you are dealing with two nor 19's.

I have done this, but not advisable.

And only run the deca for 10 wks, not 12.

And this advice is given on the idea that you know what you are engaging into.

With that said, I do not know your age, or cycle history.

Your stats are ALWAYS a good way of letting us know things about yourself.

We can collectively catch things better that way.

Best

T

[Epic1]

Drol imo. But everyone reacts different to each compound. my buddy hates dbol at 50mg a day but loves it at 20. It all depends on the person.

[c-Z]

Drolllllllllll

[*RAGE*]

Anadrol for the kicker.IMO

Test E @ 500 mgs wk.

Test E would be best I think, unless you don't mind pinning all the time.

If you are going to run deca , then you are dealing with two nor 19's.

I have done this, but not advisable.

And only run the deca for 10 wks, not 12.

And this advice is given on the idea that you know what you are engaging into.

With that said, I do not know your age, or cycle history.

Your stats are ALWAYS a good way of letting us know things about yourself.

We can collectively catch things better that way.

Best

T

agreed

[trulbfan3]

well if you havnet ran too many cycles and dont want to introduce too many new compounds go w/ prop...if not then you could run drol or dbol its all about preference but i like drol

[ranging1]

Whats a better kickstart for 4 weeks

Dbol :25-50 mg ED
Anadrol 50-100mg ED
Test Prop 50-75 mg ED

So far feedback on each is:

Dbol: "lots of water retention", "gyno in a bottle", "good on strength gains"
Anadrol: "great on strength gains", "harsh on the liver", "less water retention than dbol"
Prop: actually havent asked about this as a kickstart

lol havent even finished ur first cycle and already planning ur second
LMFAO u crack me up

i think u should be more worried about PCT, diet and keeping ur gains for now


as kickstart, i dont like dbol at all,

dont know about drol,

test prop nothing wrong with it

BUT i think drol would be the BEST kick start, just becuase it has less boat then dbol, MORE strength gains AND its NOT Androgen receptor mediated, meaning it wont bind to ur receptors while u kikstart off

THIS is a great property of drol becuase testerome BINDS to androgen receptors,
and while on a cycle the reason why gains are always the fastest at the start is becuase ur receptors are very sensitive to steroids , but as the cycle continues ur receptors become less sensitive

now lets say u ran test prop to kickstart off, this means ud be hitting ur receptors hard at the start of the cycle, therefore if u ran a cycle for 12 weeks, that means ur receptors are hit hard for those 12 weeks

now lets say u use drol instead for 4 weeks to kickstart
for a 12 week cycle ud be hitting ur receptors hard for 8 weeks (weeks 5-12) becuase of the time test takes to build up in the first 4 weeks,

therefore its effects and receptor saturation isnt at their peak until the 4th week

now for the first 4 weeks u running drol, becuase its not receptor mediated this means it isnt competing against testerome for receptors (like other steroids would), since its not binding to receptors this means that its not saturating them either

now remeber while receptors are saturated they become lesss sensitive to steroids,

therefore if we were to run drol for the first 4 weeks of a 12 week test cycle
u could reap the benefits of drols mass building abilities AND since its NOT receptor mediated it wont compete against testerome for receptors (most likely allowing for better gains)
and its gets better, since drol wont saturate ur receptors, this means ur receptors wont become less sensitive to the steroid testerome earlier in a cycle, becuase they havent been saturated for the whole 12 weeks, only 8 weeks

the benefits? drols mass building abilities, its synergestic abilities with testerome, it wont compete for receptors AND itll allow u to gain more since ur body will stay sensitive to steroids longer

[yucon92]

i say mdrol i just finished 3 weeks with it as a kick start for tes and deca and gained 16 pounds already with no noticeable water weight an no sides
just my opinion