Clen with PCT.... Need Advise

**kawizx10** · 09-28-2009, 09:03 AM

Hey All

I am looking for some solid advice here. Just finished my 13 week cycle, and want to make sure I get the PCT right. I did have it planed out, but just want to be sure.

I Also want to add in Clen as part of my PCT, I have read that it helps keep your gains, and will also help me shed a few my % of body fat.

Please help with the dosing for the Clen

Not sure If I need Nolva, please advise on that as well.

Weeks 1-6 Dbol @ 50mgs/ed
Weeks 1-13 Test C @ 600mgs/week
Weeks 1-12 EQ @ 600mgs/week
Weeks 10-16 Anavar @ 50mgs/ED ( Still On Anavar )

I will be taking Clomid for 3 weeks in total.
week 1 @ 100mg ed
week 2 @ 50mg ed
week 3 @ 500mg ed

**tballz** · 09-28-2009, 09:09 AM

From what I've read about clen it is an anti-catabolic and people do use it for pct.

For dosing you need to start low and ramp up and to see how your body is affected by it. Start at 40mcg then the next day 60mcg or whatever you can handle. You can go up to 200mcg a day but I wouldn't go beyond that. Also clen needs to be cycled 2 weeks on 2weeks off unless you are taking ketotifen then you can run it for 4-6 weeks

**kawizx10** · 09-28-2009, 09:25 AM

thanks for the reply.

Saturday Sept 26th was my last shot of Test Cyp. I will be stating my PCT from Sept 26th. Do I wait to start the clen with the Clomid?

Or do I star the Clen now?

Also what about the Nolva? do i need Nolva since I am on Anavar

**kawizx10** · 09-28-2009, 11:02 AM

Sorry to keep asking.
But I really need to get this figured out.

Need some answers from the VETs on this site.

Thanks

**liftsmore** · 09-28-2009, 11:23 AM

What's ketotifen?

**mister.fantastic** · 09-28-2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by kawizx10

Sorry to keep asking.
But I really need to get this figured out.

Need some answers from the VETs on this site.

Thanks

Yes, bro you will need to run Nolva for PCT, in addition to Clomid. Run it at 20mgs ed throughout pct. And clen can be started now. While alot of guys run it during PCT, alot of guys run it throughout the cycle as well as PCT. Clen will not effect either your test or estrogen levels in the slightest. It is a very powerful thermogenic to help you burn fat. Like tballz said, it may also help to MAINTAIN the muscle you've just put on. So start that now, for sure.

**jfalco** · 09-28-2009, 11:32 AM

I asked about this before my first cycle not too long ago. I was interested in clen during pct for it's cortisol reducing properties. All of the vets told me not to do it. They said that you will drop weight too fast and loose a lot of your gains.

**dec11** · 09-28-2009, 11:38 AM

be careful with clen , gradually bring your dose up like suggested but i def would not stay on it continually if you havnt used it b4, can be a dangerous compound, ppl are starting to get adverse effects with it

**kawizx10** · 09-28-2009, 12:19 PM

thanks for the replies.
I am still trying to read and understand all of this. Clen I personaly would not run for more then the 2weeks on 2weeks off.

This cycle gave me a great amount of size. 207lbs now, this is a gain of 15ish pounds, and I have been off the D-bol for 7 weeks now.

Still not sure on when to start the Clen, now or wait until I start the Clomed & Nolva.

I am hoping the Clen will get rid of some excess fat that is just lingering, I would love to get to 10-13%, I would look that much bigger, IMO.

**tballz** · 09-28-2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by liftsmore

What's ketotifen?

Description is taken right from the AR store: Ketotifen is perhaps best known for its ability to inhibit the down regulation of beta receptors caused by drugs like clenbuterol and albuterol. Clenbuterol and its sister drug albuterol are typically cycled on and off because they desensitize the very receptors they act on to produce their fat mobilizing effect. Ketotifen used in conjunction with either would allow the use of these fat burning drugs for much longer periods.

**kawizx10** · 09-28-2009, 06:24 PM

Can someone help me figure out the conversion for this.

the Clen I have contains 0.04mg each tablet
how do I figure out how many tabs make up 10mcg.
This is the doseage I wont to take.

Day 1 60mcg
Day 2 60mcg
Day 3 60mcg
Day 4 80mcg
Day 5 80mcg
Day 6 80mcg
Day 7 100mcg
Day 8 100mcg
Day 9 100mcg
Day 10 120mcg
Day 11 120mcg
Day 12 120mcg

**tballz** · 09-28-2009, 08:27 PM

1 tab is 40mcg, 3 tabs would be 120mcg

So 1/2 a tab is 20mcg....

**kawizx10** · 09-29-2009, 09:00 AM

started this morning.
To be honest, Clen kind of freaks me out, and this is a first for me with Clen.
I have thought it through and read up on Clen and other opionions. I have decided to start slow.

Day 1 @ 40mcg ( all good so far )
Day 2-4 @ 60mcg
Day 5-8 @ 80mcg
Day 9-11 @ 100mcg
Day 12-14 @ 120mcg

Let me know what you think...

**tronics** · 09-29-2009, 10:14 AM

you did a pretty strong cycle thats def not enough for a pct and it should include nolva as well....

clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

**kawizx10** · 09-29-2009, 02:01 PM

Have not started my PCT yet.
PCT will be October 10th, that is two weeks from my last test shot.

I am still on Anavar , and now on Clen .

**kawizx10** · 09-30-2009, 10:50 AM

Wow, Clen works fast

Second day on and already some side effects. I think so anyway...

Is this normal.

2nd day on Clen @ 60mcg taken this morning at 6am
stomach cramps, and some chest pain.

the chest pain is freaking me out.... please advise