Oral steroids which dont supress you HTPA completely

**pepous** · 09-30-2009, 07:27 AM

Is some oral steroid which give you the same benefits like testosteron? benefits like good feeling, well-being, increase of libido?

your experiences?

for example I listened that you feel much better on T-bol than on D-bol but dont know if it is true.

thank you

**redz** · 09-30-2009, 07:57 AM

You can take oral Testosteron but it is liver toxic. Give us some stats and training experience, have you cycled before?

**pepous** · 09-30-2009, 08:12 AM

180cm
85Kgs
experience with TST cycle at dose 250mg/week

But testosteron is very supresive
for example d-bol dont supress you completely
but Please answer my question .... :-)

**redz** · 09-30-2009, 08:14 AM

Dbol is very supressive so I`m not sure where you are getting your info.

Age and bf% please.....

All steroids are supressive to some degree and require pct.

**number twelve** · 09-30-2009, 08:19 AM

dbol will shut u down
halo supposedly is mild. i would still do a pct

**pepous** · 09-30-2009, 08:30 AM

"In this study, done in the early 80´s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it´s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it´s original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea)."

Personaly I think that most of oral steroid is not "totally supresive". Totaly= shut you donw completely like testosteron.

age:19
bf%: i dont know

**redz** · 09-30-2009, 08:33 AM

You are too young to be using steroids first of all and that study is 30 years old. Dbol is very supressive.

Personaly I think that most of oral steroid is not "totally supresive".

Why are you asking for advice when you have already come to a conclusion?

**marcus300** · 09-30-2009, 08:33 AM

You dont want to be using any kind of AAS at 19yrs old, do not shutdown or supress your own natural hormones at this age, we have told you this many many times on various threads, the answer isnt going to change. You need to eat to gain weight and mass, your diet isnt good, forget AAS.

**pepous** · 09-30-2009, 08:34 AM

that is same as if you have high level of DHT in blood. You also will have supressed your natty testosteron to some degree.

My natty testosteron is 37 ranges 5-30

but I look younger dont have body hair etc.

**redz** · 09-30-2009, 08:35 AM

With high natural Test you would be best served to stay natural and take advantage of that. We all know that DHT's are also supressive.

**pepous** · 09-30-2009, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by redz

You are too young to be using steroids first of all and that study is 30 years old. Dbol is very supressive.

Why are you asking for advice when you have already come to a conclusion?

sorry
but I wasnt asking to supressive or not supressive but on feeling on orals

Maybe my english is problem, do you undertand me?

**elpropiotorvic** · 09-30-2009, 08:38 AM

It's not aboud steroids .. It's about help pep... But for the libido u can try tribulus... And arginine will give u rock hard erections that's the "special weekend cocktail"

**redz** · 09-30-2009, 08:39 AM

Well aside form the age thing oral steroids are liver toxic to varying degrees depending on the compound in question. They can yield gains but in many cases for example dbol the gains are poor quality and short lived, so when the compound is discontinued the gains dissapear mostly.